Very Superstitious: Don't forget the Salt!

This week, Jacklynn and Stevie are diving deep into the world of superstitions—or as Jacklynn calls it, being "a little stitious."

In this episode, the Weirdos unpack the ancient, often terrifying origins behind the things we do to avoid a hex. We’re traveling from the sacred triangles of Ancient Egypt to the gallows of medieval England to find out why we’re all so afraid of ladders and broken mirrors.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Knock on Wood: Are you thanking tree spirits or just trying to drown out your own bragging from spiteful fairies?
• The Great Salt Toss: Why throwing salt over your left shoulder is basically a tactical move to blind the Devil. 🧂😈
• Ladders & Sacred Geometry: Why walking under a ladder was once considered "breaking" a holy space (and why Stevie spent his childhood purposefully walking under them).
• Friday the 13th & Triscodecophobia: From Loki’s uninvited dinner party antics to the "super unlucky" combination of Fridays and the number 13.
• Black Cats & Treason: How King Charles I’s bad luck started a centuries-long PR nightmare for our favourite void-coloured felines. 🐈‍⬛
• Sneezing Souls: Why saying "Bless You" is actually a spiritual door-lock to keep wandering witches from hopping into your empty body.

Plus, we talk about Osiris the Cat, the mystery of the 13-month moon calendar, and why Jacklynn got kicked out of music class for "aggressive sneezing."

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Okay. Because when I was younger, anytime I would come across a ladder, I would make sure to walk under it. Purposefully walked under it. I did.

SPEAKER_03 0:07

Did anything bad happen to you?

SPEAKER_00 0:08

Maybe that's why my I'm cursed.

SPEAKER_03 0:10

Maybe you know what? Yeah, it's your fault.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

My fault.

SPEAKER_03 0:13

Way to go, Stevie. You guessed it, Whimsical. Hi, my name is Jacqueline.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

And I'm Stevie.

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And today we are talking all things superstition.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Very superstition.

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Right in on the wall.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

I feel like I was channeling that when I decided this outfit today.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

A hundred percent. And I love it. I'm so happy that you did it. It looks so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Yeah.

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You rock that look so hard. Thank you. Very much the even got the bell bottoms on.

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Ooh.

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See that you can see that we can stand up. I really wish we could stand up. I went with she's a little stretched. This is a baby tee for someone who's maybe not this show. You know what? I don't care. Wear whatever clothes you want.

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Own it.

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But with my magic eight ball.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

I wish I could fit into a baby tee.

SPEAKER_03 1:35

So no one said anything about fitting. I'm just wearing. But yeah, so you know, magic eight ball, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

For our superstitions. Superstition. So don't be suspicious. Oh, wait, no, that's suspicious.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

That works. Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious. That's so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Do you know that was all improvised?

SPEAKER_03 1:54

That's amazing. I love that. I'm also not shocked because they're brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

They're so funny. But we're not talking about suspicious. We're talking about superstitious. You know, I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little sushi.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

I was just a little sushi. Michael Scott. Ayo.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Um, Steven, are you in fact a superstitious person?

SPEAKER_00 2:13

I don't think I'm like wildly superstitious. Okay. Where like if I were to like miss doing one of the little things, then I'd be like, oh my God, like the world is over.

SPEAKER_03 2:25

It's not gonna ruin your day.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

It's not gonna ruin my day.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

If I remembered it in the moment, I mean, do I knock on wood when I'm talking about certain things? I do that.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

Um the throwing the salt over your shoulder, I don't do a lot.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

Right. Well, are you spilling lots of salt?

SPEAKER_00 2:43

I spill everything.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Okay. Fair enough. Are you? Um, I definitely think that I practice a lot of these.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Yes. I mean a lot of them are very witchcraft. Correct.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

I think it's like a more ritualistic than if I don't do this, something's gonna go wrong.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

Um, dare I say superstitious is like OCD adjacent.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

I mean right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Um, but I do, yeah, like there are certain things that I will forever always do. Yeah. And we will get into what those are.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

Um, but there are certain, yeah, like there's some that I'm like, no, forget it. Yeah. As a kid, though, I was like religious about these kinds of things.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 3:27

Um, so I guess we'll find out.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

There we go.

SPEAKER_03 3:30

Shall we dive in?

SPEAKER_00 3:31

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

All right. So many of the common superstitions we still observe today are centuries old echoes of ancient religious practices. Like you said. Um, either religious practices, medieval fears, or really even early common sense kind of activities that eventually morphed into something mystical.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

I could see that.

SPEAKER_03 3:50

Yeah. So here are a few popular ones and the fascinating stories behind them.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Here we go. So, first we have, I mean, which I said earlier, very common knocking on wood. Yes. Uh, so this is one of the most universal superstitions used to avoid jinxing good fortune. Right. It likely traces back to ancient Indo-European or Celtic cultures who believed that spirits and deities lived inside trees. To request a favor or offer thanks to these spirits, one would touch the bark. Another theory suggests that people knocked on wood to create a noise that would mask their bragging from malevolent spirits who might want to steal their good luck out of spite.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

I've heard the um spirits and fairies and deities in the trees. That's a very um old thing. Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 4:45

Absolutely ancient.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Ancient, if you will.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Um, so in my research, I found an article on Reader's Digest from 2025 by Joanne Liguri. Sorry. Um, and it included notes from two language experts. Okay. Um, one of them said that while this phrase alludes to being around since like ancient times, as we just kind of discussed, he has a hard time believing it because the Oxford English Dictionary's first account of this phrase of knocking on wood um only truly appears in 1907, apparently.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:16

Um and touch wood was actually in 1898. I gotta tell you, I in my old age, I've started saying touch wood as opposed to knock on wood. Really? I don't know why. I don't know when the f the flip happened, but I absolutely say, oh, you know, touch wood instead of knock on wood, which I used to say all the time.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

I say knock on wood all the time.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

Yeah, that was I don't know what I wonder if it was like came from my grandma. I'm not really sure, but I flipped to touch wood. Interesting. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

I mean, you are leaning into like you're aged now.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

I really oh my gosh, show me shit.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

I was just gonna say we have to party people. This is on you. It's on me.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

It's comp it was entirely my I'm happy about it. idea. There's this sound, and I really want to dig up. Oh, it was it was called like ACT tune buzz or something like that. And I will be Googling that now that I just remembered it in this moment. Um but there's this sound, this high-pitched frequency sound that allegedly people under 40 can hear, and anyone over 40 can't hear.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:24

And I was frantically searching for the one specifically that I just remembered now, um, couldn't find it, so I found a different one that said, like, anyone over 40 can't hear this, and it was some probably similar frequency.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

I played it.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

You played it for myself and Dan.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

Uh-huh. And I couldn't hear it.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

You couldn't hear it. Dan couldn't hear it.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

Dan, who is younger than the both of us.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Than the both of us. Couldn't hear it. I could hear it. This bitch heard it. I have young ears.

SPEAKER_03 6:53

Oh my god. I cannot bel now. Does it make total sense? Because I've been to what do you call them? Many a rock concert.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

I fair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:03

I've been to a lot of shows.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

You have, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

But you're a you're younger than me.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

And you heard it and I did it.

SPEAKER_00 7:10

I heard it.

SPEAKER_03 7:11

I am not listening I am approaching a new decade. I have still a solid year to go before I reach said decade, but that cut me deep. That cut me.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Didn't I you played the under 26 one and I heard that one?

SPEAKER_03 7:29

Yes, you are. Yes! Steven heard under 26.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

I have very good senses, not for the spiritual realm, but for the physical stuff. My my scent, my hearing, it's a it's a thing.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

You I don't think you're ever gonna lose your hearing, which is great. Touch wood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really good, really good.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Um, okay, well, let's keep this moving right along. Speaking of smells. No, it's not smells at all. I read it as smelling salt. Would you ever? Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

Smelling salt? Would you ever try it? I think I really like sports people do it to like wake and prove themselves that.

SPEAKER_03 8:09

You've smelled them in my rep baseball days.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Rep baseball? What is that?

SPEAKER_03 8:15

So I don't even know how to So I So not House League, but rep. So like rep was like hardcore. Yes. Um it it it was like explain sports to me. Yeah. So rep was like I it was um more hardcore than house league, which also means nothing to you at all.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

I don't know what that means. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

It was like better than most. Let's say that. Okay. More hardcore, more do you have the competitive?

SPEAKER_00 8:43

It was smaller. It was a small ball.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

It was a smaller ball, um, and it was hard. It was not soft ball. Hard ball, not softball. Okay. Yeah. It was a hard, smaller.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

I associate baseball with dandelions in the field.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

Yes, you sure do. Okay, so back to smelling salt. Um, there is I did you ever see video footage of like them being like, no, I need something stronger? And then they're like, ugh. Unreal.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

I I want to try one. Do you? To be fair, you've probably experienced things that are way stronger anyway.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

Fair.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

Yeah. Um, but it's yeah, it's not great.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

You can taste it a little. Ugh. When you get like the what's that? Post-nasal drip?

SPEAKER_03 9:28

Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what happens. And you're just like, uh, it just like burns. Yeah, uh, it's not good.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

Okay, spilling salt.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

Not to be confused with smelling salt.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

Right. But if you are spilling some salt, many believe that spilling salt is an omen of bad luck, which can only be countered by throwing a pinch over your left shoulder.

SPEAKER_00 9:48

Your left shoulder.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Historically, salt was incredibly expensive and it was used as currency, um, and of course, for preserving food. So to spill it was a genuine household disaster.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

There you go. I think the reason I don't do the salt one a lot is because I always forget which shoulder I'm supposed to throw it over.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

So Well, there you go. Why don't you tell me about why it's the left one?

SPEAKER_00 10:09

There we go. Okay. So the tradition of throwing it over your left shoulder comes from the belief that the devil or evil spirits always lingered on the left side or the sinister side. Oh, right? Because if you were ever left-handed, that was the mark of the devil, right?

SPEAKER_03 10:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

By throwing salt into their eyes, you temporarily blinded them so they couldn't cause further trouble. Sure. There you go. This is actually followed in different cultures from Hindu to Buddhism, with all relating to some form of protection due to the bad luck that is supposed to come from actually spilling the salt.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Also, did you know that the word salary comes from the Latin word salt essentially, because Romans were like paid in chunks of salt because it was so a hot commodity.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

Yeah. So like sal or sal is the Roman word for like essentially salt. And it was, yeah, like basically. Star swipe moment. Yeah. The more you know. The more you know. Um Yeah. Feel free to fact check me on that. But that somewhere in my random brain of knowledge.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

I I could see something like that.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

Salary comes from that word of like because they were paid in salt.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

I miss I miss the days as if I ever experienced them where you where you weren't paid with money, but it was like bartering.

SPEAKER_03 11:32

You were there. Tell me. I was there. What was it like? It was great. What was it like when they invented fire? When they discovered fire. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

The good old days. You know what?

SPEAKER_03 11:43

My dad used to say that to my grandmother, who was 102 when she died.

SPEAKER_00 11:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

Um, he'd be like, what was it like when they invented the wheel? And she's like, oh, go on. Um but yeah, no, it was like bartering. Bartering. I wish it was a still away. There are homesteads, I think, that still do that.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Good old homesteads. Right? With those trad wives.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Oh no. Oh no. Um, what did you say to me the other day? No, it was on a podcast. We're like, you know, football? I'm like, we are not. Remember when football? No, Fupa.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

And I lost my mind. Yeah. I think it was.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

That was that was um was it the mermaid episode?

SPEAKER_03 12:22

I don't know, but you should all go back and listen to all of the episodes.

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All of them.

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We're at, I think, 38.

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38 subscribers on YouTube.

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Spiked in the past week. You love it. Thank you.

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Thanks, Jim.

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So a few people are from his following. Welcome. Thanks, father of mine.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

Yay. Um, I was gonna say something inappropriate about the size of my shirt, but now I'm not going to after talking about your dad.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

So there you go. He likes it. He draws nude women all the time.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

Fair enough. And it's very good. Exquisite stuff. Um, all right. Well, thanks for that. Steven, about salts.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Oh, I was like, for what? What were we talking about? What did I do?

SPEAKER_03 13:33

A quick thank. Um, and okay, I just want to I just want to say, first of all, does everyone know the way we end our podcasts, what that's from? Oh. Does that does everyone? Have you explained this before? I don't know. I'm not sure. Here we are, like 42 episodes in.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

I only just saw because you didn't you repost on Instagram with something? I sure did. I was like, that's where it's.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

You didn't know this entire time.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

You told me, but I don't remember. You don't remember that.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

But I love that. So, okay. It's from a classic art cinema. Art, good old art cinema.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Short bus? Do you know that movie is?

SPEAKER_02 14:15

Oh my god. This is going crazy.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

It's late, guys. Sorry. So no. Not short bus. Great movie there.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

I thought you were legit trying to come up with the title.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know why shortbus just popped it in my head.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

I need to look it up.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

That's art cinema.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

Oh, okay. Understood. Um this also is Dumb and Dumber. Hello. Excellent piece of Nama. One of my favorite movies.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Of course it is.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

And there is a scene in which they're coming out of a convenience store, right? That for the ending, yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

But the scene that I'm about to tell you about um was when Lloyd actually spills salt. Oh. Yeah. And he's like, Man, you you have to you throw it over your left shoulder. You have to throw it over your left shoulder. And he just whips the bottle. The whole bottle and whips it and it nails this guy. Anyways, and then hilarity ensues. But, anyways, there you go. Harry is like, you have to throw salt over your left shoulder. And he just whips it.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

I love it. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

That's very funny. Anyway, that works. Yeah. My entire life is based around that movie, apparently.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

And you incorporate it in the pod without me knowing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

Also, I don't even know why. Like, I just the very day, I said it.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

Sino, is that allowed? It is now. It is now. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

Um okay, let's move on. More superstitions. Walking under a ladder. Okay. Okay. About 5,000 years ago, so really just the other day, in ancient Egypt. Okay. Stephen loves. Yeah, this superstition was born. A ladder leaning against a wall forms a what? A triangle.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

A unilateral?

unknown 16:02

From a ladder.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

Maybe. I may I made it. I made that's the first triangle that popped into my head. So I don't know. Wow. That is a triangle, right? A unilateral triangle. And there's an isn't an isosceles. Isosceles and a cute. Oh, and a cute.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

And a cute. Um.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Also, I don't think that has anything to do with it. Ladder? A ladder. Unilateral.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Back on track.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Okay, so a ladder leaning against a wall forms a triangle.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

In the space between said wall and ladder. Of course, we know that the triangle was a sacred shape, below pyramids, um, a holy trinity, if you will. And walking through that space was seen as breaking a holy space or defying the gods.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Okay, so here's how I know I might not be superstitious. Oh, okay. Because when I was younger, anytime I would come across a ladder, I would make sure to walk under it. You purposefully walked under it. I did.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

What? Did anything bad happen to you?

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Maybe that's why my I'm cursed. I swear my family is cursed. We have bad luck here and there.

SPEAKER_03 17:07

I mean, maybe you know what? Yeah, it's your fault.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

My fault.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

Way to go, Stevie.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Yep. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

That is one that I will. I mean, I've had to do it a few times because it's like if you're holding something, like if you're holding it for someone, you have to do it. Um, but there's many times where I will physically stop and walk around it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

So um in medieval Europe, a leaning ladder resembled the gallows used for executions. Walking under it was seen as inviting your own death or brushing up against the spirits of the departed. Whoa. In fact, we read on live science.com, good old science, uh, that in England during the 1600s, they would make condemned people walk under a ladder on their way to the gallows to meet their fate. Just rude.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

Kick in the ass. Right. Because you're already on your way to Damn. Ugh, not great. Um, let's move on to Friday the 13th.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Love it.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

We love a Friday the 13th. Um, as many of you could probably guess or know. Um, fun fact there are three Friday the 13th in 2026.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

There are.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Two have already passed.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 18:22

One in February, one in March. Um, and the next one is in November. Love it. I was supposed to see you on March Friday the 13th.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

You were.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

The weather destroyed me.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

You got dumped up.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Yeah, big time. It sucked. Um, and February, fun, fun little story. February 13th was, of course, Galantine's Day, the day before the 14th.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:44

And me and my friend Amy went out, and it was so much fun. What a great time. Yay.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

Yay.

SPEAKER_00 18:51

So the fear of this specific date is a mix of two separate superstitions. Fearing the number 13 is actually a named fear, which is Triskodecophobia. Triskodekophobia.

SPEAKER_03 19:05

Nailed it. I'm sorry, Steven. I did it to you again. I didn't even mean to.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Fuck you. Man. In Norse mythology, twelve gods were having a dinner party when the thirteenth guest, the trickster Loki, good old Loki, arrived uninvited, starting a ruckus and ultimately caused the death of the beloved god Balder, who was everyone's favorite. Sure. Baldur was the son of Odin and was the god of light. So of course, this made everyone hate Loki. And forever linked 13 with him, as he was the 13th guest of the party. Got it. This carried over into the Christian tradition. Judas was the 13th guest at the Last Supper, and we know what happened there.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

Judas!

SPEAKER_00 19:50

Do we?

SPEAKER_03 19:51

I mean, I do.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

Did he kill Judah?

SPEAKER_03 19:55

He betrayed Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

He betrayed Jesus. Judas killed God.

unknown 19:59

Jesus!

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Judas! Oh no! Um, yeah, Judas betrayed Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

How?

SPEAKER_03 20:05

And that's why.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

Do we know how? Uh is he actually wait, no, I was gonna say Jesus isn't He didn't get Mary pregnant.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

Mary's his mother. He gave him up to the Romans, and that's what ultimately led to his crucifixion, but I don't remember what it was about. I must have skipped Sunday school that day.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

And for all the religious talk I did in my last episode. I am failing on pretty basic level here.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

I just thought it was Lady Gaga was cheating on.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

Nailed it. Yeah. I sound exactly like her.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

That's great.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

Um and why Friday? Why Friday? Well, historically, Friday was considered an unlucky day for many. And it was the day of the crucifixion, as I just mentioned. And in some traditions, the day that Eve gave Adam the apple. Eve gave Adam the apple? I thought Eve made it.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

I thought the snake gave the app. Well, the snake gave it.

SPEAKER_03 21:10

Yes. And then I think Eve was like, you should eat this, and Adam didn't, and Eve did. I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Oh. So Oh, because the the women were swaying the men.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

Don't get me started. Um so with these two, the the fear of 13 and the fear of Fridays combined, this created a super unlucky day of, of course, Friday the 13th.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

I have a story about Friday the 13th.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Hit me with it.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

I actually learned this in my little conspiracy theory deep dive.

SPEAKER_03 21:38

Love it.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

So 13 is actually a very um holy, blessed number and day, not in regards to like Christianity or religion or anything, but there actually used to be 13 months.

SPEAKER_03 21:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

13 months. And there's 13. Moon cycles.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

And it the 13 cycles is very with the earth and how things rotate and how we're actually supposed to be on these 13 cycles. And it's very in tune with nature. And the church and all of that decided to get rid of 13 so that we weren't as in sync with the earth. And it threw our whole system off. And they created the whole thing against 13.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

And it's actually a good thing. And look at us now. And look at us now.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Thank you for sharing that, Steve.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

I was born on a Friday.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Okay. So it's a great day. It's a great day. Great day.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

I was gonna say, does that mean it's unlucky for my parents and the rest of them? I am a menace together.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

I don't know what day I was. Maybe a Saturday? I can't remember.

SPEAKER_03 22:54

You should check it out. I know exactly what day, what time, where.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

Okay, holding. So it was a Saturday. A Saturday. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

The day after you. Ah.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

So cute. A year and like two weeks after each other.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

Um, okay. Well, we love, we love Friday the 13th.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

Love Friday the 13th. It's actually a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

Yeah, we enjoy it. And um speaking of superstitious, a group of people stand by Friday the 13th, which is Motorcycles. Correct. Yeah. And they go to Port Dover. Port Dover. I wonder if they went in February.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Maybe. Rob's not. My mom and stepdad just bought a motorcycle.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Wow. Yeah. Good for them. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Do you know what kind?

SPEAKER_00 23:40

A black one.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Great.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

I think it was black and silver.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

I don't know. I don't know anything about motorcycles. No.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

So I they actually kind of scare me a little.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

Well, here's the thing I've always said about motorcycles, because Kyle was an avid motorcycle. Really? Did I know this? I don't know. He got rid of both of his bikes like as I started dating him. So I've never known him to have one. But um in our conversations, I I and I stand by this with everyone. Like, it's not you as the rider, it's everyone else around you.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

A thousand percent.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

You like how many times do you hear that a motorcyclist has been killed because some jagoff is like texting or not paying attention or falling to the wheel? Like there's nothing between you and the road.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

It's so true.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Yeah, but scary but fun. Yeah. Sure. I've been on the back of a five.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Have you? Oh yeah. I don't know if I would go on one.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

It was fun but scary. And like something happened both times.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

I yeah, well, that's what I'm so unlucky with that kind of shit that something would happen.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

So yikes. Speaking of it. Anywho, speaking of speaking of what's the next superstition? Breaking a mirror. Talk about love. Yep. So the idea that a broken mirror brings seven years of bad luck is a mix of Roman medicine and ancient psychology. There you go. According to historians, this is likely to have started in ancient Greece, where divination was quite popular. The story goes that Greeks believed they could see their own souls while gazing at the reflection in pools of water, ponds, etc. Then, when the Romans created glass mirror, it was very common for people to consult with mirror seers. Tough to say mirror seers. They would dip the mirror in water and have you look into it. Their reflection was analyzed, and if your image was distorted in the mirror, you were probably gonna die. If it was clear, you were fine.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

Well, I mean Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

But mirrors and divination are a huge thing. Black, black mirrors.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

Yes, absolutely. Scrying.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Have you ever done scrying in like yeah? Yeah. Have you seen anything?

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Tough to say because so no, but my vision changed. Oh, okay. Big time. Cool. Um, but I didn't see anything that wasn't like normal. I just it just things around me. But you know when you stare at something for long enough that your peripheral just like does things anyway. Yeah. Um, it doesn't help that like, you know, it was dark and I was like in candlelight. Yeah. So like I can't be sure.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Fair. Um I know never stare at yourself in the mirror when you're on shrooms. It is demonic.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

Well, the good news is You would never do shrooms.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Never do it. Okay. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

That would be terrifying. What do you see?

SPEAKER_00 26:37

I turn into like a demon. I it was it was weird.

SPEAKER_03 26:42

Yeah, no, don't like that. Yeah. Don't like that. Um, so the Romans believe that the soul was, of course, reflected in the mirror. Oh god. Which is also super bad news for you.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

I'd be a demon. I'm okay with it.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

Um it was considered disrespectful to break a mirror as it would anger the gods. To break the glass was to shatter the soul and therefore brought misfortune. But for only seven years. So why seven years? Well, the Romans, the Romans, the Romans, the Romans also believed that the human body underwent a total physical regeneration every seven years.

SPEAKER_00 27:21

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

Therefore, it would take exactly seven years for your shattered soul to fully heal and for the bad luck to expire.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Did you know that your allergies change every seven years as well?

SPEAKER_03 27:33

Shut up, really?

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Yeah, so this makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

Seven years. Seven years. Also, seven. Lucky number.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

Lucky number seven. Look at that.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

13, 7, something to be said. What's it called? Numerology.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Numerology.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

I think. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

There you go. Uh, so we also have iron over the door or the horseshoe. Right. Horseshoe over a door is a big one.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Huge one.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Uh well, today we hang horseshoes for general good luck. The original intent was purely defensive. In folklore, supernatural beings, including witches, fairies, and demons, were believed to have an intense physical aversion to cold iron. It was thought to burn them or nullify their magic.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

Right. And placing an iron horseshoe over the threshold of a house, often with the points up to catch the luck, or down to pour protection over those entering, was a way to create a magnetic like barrier that no malevolent force could cross.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 28:34

Or like it would take away the powers or yeah, keep unwelcome, sort of dangerous spirits out of your house.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Interesting. And little did they know that witches actually use iron in their practices. Yeah, oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

And iron has also been said to like keep um ghosts away. Like if you don't want a ghost in your home, you can hang some bits of iron.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Well, and weren't the um was it I think Shar shared that witch's gate with us. It was made of iron. It's to keep us out, keep us out of um graveyards and holy areas.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

We should go there and walk through. I'm in. Yeah. Um Okay, this is another common one. We have the sneeze blessings.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

This one I for sure have to say to everyone around me.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Which one do you say? Do you say the same one every time or could does it like vary?

SPEAKER_03 29:28

I say bless you every single time. Every single time. And maybe I shouldn't because like maybe people won't want that.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

But I Well, that's my thing. That's why I kind of stopped saying it. Um, as and when someone says God bless you, I'm like, Oh yeah, no. I should start doing that actually on the page.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

You should, you should, you should.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

I also like the Gazuntai. I don't know what that means. It could be God bless you.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

Honestly, I should have looked it up and I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

But I just like the sound of it. Sure. Um, so the phrase God bless you is so common we don't even think about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Some of us think about it. Some of us think about it clearly.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Uh, but its roots are tied to the vulnerability of the soul. Right. It was once believed that during a sneeze, the force of the air was so great that it briefly expelled the soul from the body. Right. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

Yeah. So this split second of emptiness was the perfect window for a witch or a wandering spirit to hop inside and take up residence.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

I mean, someone didn't bless us one time. We sneeze.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Saying bless you acted as a quick spiritual seal to shove the soul back in and lock the door before anything else could get in.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Two things.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

One, learn this from the Simpsons long ago.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

Oh, good old Simpsons.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

Bart and Milhouse are like rough, you know, rough housing playing around. And I don't remember what it was for, but Bart like essentially is like, I'll give you my soul for XYZ.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Oh, yes, okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

And Milhouse was like, that's not even like funny. Like you shouldn't even mess around with that. And then he says, like, when you sneeze, that's your soul trying to escape and saying, Bless you, crams it back in. And Bart's like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And he's like, Here, I'll sell you my soul. And he writes on a piece of paper, like, you now own Bart's soul and gives it to Milhouse. And then it like Marge comes in and hugs him. She's like, That's weird. You feel weird. You feel different. Because his soul was sold to Milhouse.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Sold to Milhouse.

SPEAKER_03 31:25

So thank you, Simpsons, for educating me.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Um, point number two Do you sneeze loudly? I've heard you sneeze.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

And I think I think I do.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

I think you sneeze.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

It depends on where I am.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Right. Okay. Okay. What's like a true blue like decibel level of your sneeze?

SPEAKER_00 31:45

It's loud. Yeah. You don't know the decibel level. I can't tell you.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

I probably can hear it because I'm so old.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

True. I sneeze at a level that only under 40 year olds can hear.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

Um, I don't want to do it because Osiris just walked down here and he'd be so scared. I am aggressive.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

I could see that.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

As is my father. I always look at that.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

You're aggressive in many ways.

SPEAKER_03 32:07

I am aggressive in many ways. My sneezing is like borderline ridiculous. Okay. But so is my dad's, and I feel like that's where I got it from.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

Fair.

SPEAKER_03 32:15

Um it sounds like we're screaming.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Okay, yeah, mine's not like that.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

Oh no, mine is ridiculous. I we talked about um middle school music class last episode.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

Randomly. Um, go listen. It's a w it's a trip.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

It's we go on a sneezing.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

We sure do. Um, I got kicked out of music class. Because of sneezing? Right. Because she was like, You're putting it on. I'm like, I'm really not. I have no control of this.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Have I heard this? Man, it's loud.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

Maybe I just, you know, it's normal now.

SPEAKER_03 32:47

Uh maybe. Because everything else I do is ridiculous. Yeah, no, I sneeze very loudly.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

If I'm uh somewhere where people are, I definitely try to hold it in. I'm like, fuck, my eyeballs are gonna pop out.

SPEAKER_03 33:00

Oh yeah, which doesn't that isn't that like actually a thing?

SPEAKER_00 33:02

I yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

I don't think you can sneeze without like you have to close your eyes.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Yes. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Yeah. I'd love to see that. I know, Michelle. An eyeball pop out.

unknown 33:12

Bobby Wyle.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

That reminds me of the hostel, the movie. Where the eyeball popped out.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

Oh, never seen it. I refuse.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

I watched it before I went to Europe and stayed in hostels because I'm weird like that.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Oh asking for it. Asking for it.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Um, okay. Next we have oh, thanks for giving this one to me. We have the black cat. So many cultures regard black cats as an omen, but it varies from good and bad. Ancient Egyptians revered and even worshipped cats, obviously, including black ones. So naturally, the belief of a black cat being a lucky or good omen started here. And Osiris was just walking around. Osiris was, just I have my little black cat. Uh, so its luck continued. Yes. So it seemed in England when King Charles I owned and cherished a pet cat.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

He believed it brought him so much luck that when it sadly died, he was afraid something terrible was going to happen. According to Livescience.com again, the day after his pet black cat died, he was arrested for treason.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

I mean So that started it. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

There you go. Uh love a black cat. Love a black cat. Always have a black cat.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

Of course, as you should. Uh, and of course, we know that during the Middle Ages in Europe, black cats were seen as familiars of witches or even witches in disguise themselves.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

This started the belief that a black cat crossing your path meant the devil was watching you and that no good would come of it. Um, the pilgrims really leaned into this belief, and when they traveled to America, um, they're likely responsible for keeping the negative view of the black cats going for so long, even to this day. And we've discussed this as friends, but I don't think on the pod, but like cats that are black are neglected in shelters all the time.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

All the time. They have there are specific sites and shelters for black cats because people don't want them. Yeah. And they will abuse them, they will throw them out, you know, cars and windows and all sorts of shit. And they people do not like black cats.

SPEAKER_03 35:24

Well, fuck you, y'all. That's insane.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

But it's true. Like, this is the probably the biggest, longest running. I yeah. And like anyway. Yeah. Don't you want to befriend a powerful being like that? I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

There he is.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

Hi, buddy. Oh, he's frozen. He's like, You're speaking to me.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

He is the wimpiest black cat because he Do you think he'll do you think he'll come up to you?

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Maybe. Hi, buddy. You should show him off. You coming up? Osiris.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Hold please.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

Here he is.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

Oh, that was perfect timing. You heard us talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

So this is Osiris. That's him. You can see that. Yeah, he doesn't really like attention.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

Hi, baby. Yeah. And isn't his name Egyptian?

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Yeah, Osiris. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:16

There you go. So perfect little baby. He's like, I want to get the box. Too much.

unknown 36:22

Too much.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Um, okay. So before we get into some that we didn't cover, the ones that we did talk about, like, do you so black hat, obviously, we do not follow because we cherish them and love them. We follow the fact that it's good omen.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

100%. Uh, which I would say a lot of these, I actually think the reverse of.

SPEAKER_03 36:39

Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_00 36:39

I think they're more good. Like Friday the 13th.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

Yes, we love, and like obviously it well, iron over the door, protect him, breaking the mirror. I guess breaking it.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

I am too.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

I can't.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

I agree with you there.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Um the only time I would do that is if it was for like a DIY craft project and I needed to break it.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Fair enough. Yeah. Um, okay, cool. So when it comes like we could we could have gone on and on. Oh, for sure. There are so many. So, what are some superstitions that we didn't cover? Well, of course, there's the sports superstitions.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

The only one I can think of is no sex.

unknown 37:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:18

A lot of them will do that.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

That is also a scientific one.

SPEAKER_00 37:21

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

Yes, because my past life in fighting has taught me this. Okay. Yeah. Like the more testosterone you have, you know, you're not like.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Does it work for guys and girls?

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Yeah. Oh, for sure. You're like, well, obviously much more for guys because testosterone to them is everything. But um, yeah, no, you're not supposed to have sex before you like the night before your fight. Because you're supposed to like keep all your hormones and like, yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Paritima.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Weird. Another reason to hate sports.

SPEAKER_03 37:57

Right.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Boo.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

Um, but also like the playoff beards, you know, like in hockey or not washing the jersey. Yeah. That's a gross one.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Um heated rivalry with his little socks. Oh my gosh. Or his superstition of having the smoothie.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Love heated.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Love it.

SPEAKER_03 38:15

Much like everyone else on Face Yards. Yeah. Um, yeah, the socks, that's a really big one. Right. That's a really big one. Um, I have also seen, you know, they'll touch the emblem, whatever team it is, like they'll touch their emblem as I'm giving.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

Is the um, again, he to Ravelry, is the kissing of the Stanley Cup, is that a thing? That's a super is that a superstition?

SPEAKER_03 38:36

I don't think that's a superstition. I think that's more of like a ritual that you do. That's just like something you do. You kiss the cup. That's like the thing you do. Um, who knows? Maybe it was steeped in superstition from back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

Um, but yes, every single one of them lift it and then kiss it.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:51

Um I think that's kind of most of the sports ones that I can think of.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

Yeah. Um we can also talk about we've got holding your breath while passing cemeteries in your car.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

Did you I did that all the time as a kid?

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Sometimes I did.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

I did it every single time. And the one in Hamilton on was it York Road? Uh it's huge.

SPEAKER_00 39:13

And you're like huge. Yeah.

unknown 39:15

I'm not gonna make it.

SPEAKER_03 39:16

Yeah, I made it, thankfully.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

On that note, there's also the whistling when you're either walking through or going by a graveyard. What? Where it's like uh uh if you whistle while you're going past it, it um um uh makes it so that the ghosts don't attach or come near you or something.

SPEAKER_02 39:35

Really?

SPEAKER_00 39:35

But then remember we talked in the Appalachia episode where it's like whistling forces. It's sad.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Because it will draw them in.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So interesting.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

Um this one is super random, and I've only heard it from one person, but now it's something I do every time.

SPEAKER_00 39:52

I've never heard of this one.

SPEAKER_03 39:54

I'm not friends with this person anymore, so like it pains me to say it. Um lifting your feet while driving over train tracks and touching the glass of your window.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

Like paired together.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

Correct. So like touch, lift, and go over the tracks.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

What if you're driving?

SPEAKER_03 40:08

I mean, yeah, dangerous move. Yeah. Uh I do it every time.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

Every time. Isn't that so weird?

SPEAKER_00 40:16

That is weird.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

And like it was from this person that I learned it, and now I can't stop doing it.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

I don't even know why. I don't know why. I have no knowledge as to where this came from. It's just this person started doing it all the time, and then I started doing it, and now I can't stop.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

And it feels weird when I don't do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

So maybe you do have a little OCD.

SPEAKER_03 40:37

Oh, for sure. I got some I got a lot of things going on.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

You got a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 40:42

I got a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

Um, we also have naming of boats. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

That's a big one. The whole idea is like if you are are you have to name your boat, your boat. Yeah. Which like I mean, I have a boat, is it named? We name it ourselves, yeah. But it's not like on it, and it needs to be on it. So it's like what's your boat's name? Oh, I mean Bodie.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

Oh Bodie, obviously. Bodie. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 41:05

Um, yeah, it's nothing like smart or cool. Bodie McBoat face. Pretty much. Yeah, that's that's kind of it.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 41:11

There are like I really like a lot of the like there's always like the naughty boy. Okay. Like booy and naughty, like nautical knots.

SPEAKER_01 41:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

Um, I like when we pass by all the time in our marina that's um this is the ring. So instead of like an engagement ring. Oh, cute. We got a boat. This is the ring. Yeah, yeah. So, but there are some cute ones out there. Yeah. Yeah. But nah. Uh naming a boat, important.

SPEAKER_00 41:37

Bodhi.

SPEAKER_03 41:37

Um, Bodie. Can't wait to get Bodhi out. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Oh, I can't wait to go on it, Taylor. A couple more months, and we'll get Bodhi out. So good.

SPEAKER_03 41:45

Um, opening umbrella indoors. Dare I say, this is one of those common sense ones where like you just don't do it so that someone started.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

This is another one I made sure to do.

SPEAKER_03 41:56

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:59

Okay. So not like not all the time, but there were a few times where I was like, haha, I'm a rebel. And I would like open an umbrella inside.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

That's hilarious. And also, especially because I was just saying that it was a common sense.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

I don't have common sense. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

Only simply because like you're gonna explode something everywhere or knock something over.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

I would do it in a room that was big enough that it wouldn't touch walls.

SPEAKER_03 42:22

Fair enough. I physically cannot do that. I can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

Because you're not a rebel.

SPEAKER_03 42:27

I am a rule follower, yeah. And I for sure have some sort of like, you know, tism or something.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

100%.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

I just I can't, I can't do it. Again, superstitious or on the spectrum.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

Fuck the system.

SPEAKER_03 42:39

You tell me.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Yeah. I am a rule breaker.

SPEAKER_03 42:42

See, again, Steven is the cooler one of us both. That's why his name is Cool Stevie Steve.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

That's saying something because I'm not cool, guys.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

Um yeah, what about this one?

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Uh okay, yeah. So we are finding a penny on the ground. Find a penny, pick it up, pick it up, all the time. All good day.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

All good day.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

All good day, you'll have good luck. All day long, you'll have good luck.

SPEAKER_03 43:06

Yeah, see a penny, pick it up all day long, you'll have good luck. Which of course we can't do anymore. Nope. Which is so stupid.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

I always wanted to do either the penny floor or the penny countertop. Stuff like that. When you like epoxy over it.

SPEAKER_03 43:19

That would take forever.

unknown 43:21

Forever.

SPEAKER_03 43:21

Because you have to do it by hand.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:23

Yeah, that'd look really pretty.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

I think that'd be cool. You can maybe choose like a wall somewhere to do it. Yeah. Right? And like a bathroom or something. Yeah. Um, this is not superstitious, but it kind of goes to like spiritual belief. Okay. You know, I've been finding a lot of dimes.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

Oh my God. Uh, yesterday, the day before, I was getting my hair done. Yeah. And they were talking about this because the one girl, her and her dad, who had passed away, they had a thing about dimes. And that day, she found around uh the salon where she works at at different times, five. Different dimes that she was picking up, and then the girl who was doing my hair found two when she after this girl would talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Something about dyes. So that's a mess. So specifically, dimes are a message from a past level. They are. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 44:14

Cute.

SPEAKER_03 44:15

Yes. And I've been finding them a lot. Obviously, this person that's wild that she found five.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

Um, yeah. Wild. The the day actually, so my one of my relatives passed away last weekend. And on the day she died, there were two dimes directly below me, like at the gym when I like was working out, whatever. And then I'm like, oh, there's two dimes.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

What what sign would she want to be giving you?

SPEAKER_03 44:41

Yeah. Remains to be seen. I guess we'll find out. I guess we'll find out. Find out. Um, R.I.P., love you. Who knows if the feeling was mutual? Um I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was. For sure. Just people have different ways of showing their love and affection, right? So that's all I have to say about that. But yeah, dimes are for sure like a sign. That's cool. Um, when my friend Brian passed away, I found a dime the day.

unknown 45:11

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Um again, it's because you're more sensitive. Nothing ever happens to me. No. This is why I break mirrors and walk under lauds to make something happen.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

I want it. We're not gonna use it. We're not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

We're gonna guess that.

SPEAKER_03 45:26

Um, okay. Well, how about how about this, Steven? How about this? How about this?

SPEAKER_00 45:31

Uh so we've got uh regions, different regions with high levels of superstition. Yeah, yeah. Uh so the first one is the Philippines, uh, often cited as having highly superstitious populations with strong beliefs in urban legends, ghosts, and the evil eye. Sure. Also known as Usog or Ballas. Sure. Even among the religious, the evil eye for the case.

SPEAKER_03 45:55

The religious and superstitious. Usually they don't go hand in hand. But um so and another sort of um region with high levels of superstition here, India. Yeah, deeply rooted in superstitious culture, including the belief that this is interesting. Cutting nails at night or on a specific day brings bad luck and avoiding travel on certain days as well. Interesting. Very interesting. I never would have thought that. Yeah. Also, do you love that I have nails now?

SPEAKER_00 46:24

Love them.

SPEAKER_03 46:24

I don't have to do jujitsu anymore. So true.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

This is literally why I have nails.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

Yeah. Um, we also have China. Superstitions such as the avoidance of the number four, which sounds like death.

SPEAKER_03 46:39

Oh, maybe in Chinese Mandarin or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Uh often influence business and architecture with many buildings emitting a fourth floor.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

Wow, that's like the floor. So instead of 13, yeah. Because that's actually something we didn't talk about.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:52

Is buildings legit not modern, I think it's hit or miss. It depends.

SPEAKER_00 46:57

Yeah, because I go into a lot checking to see if there's a 13th floor. And most times there is now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

But they used to skip it. They used to go 12, 14, which did nothing. Because 14 was his 13th floor, but that's fine. Yeah. Uh Russia and Eastern Europe. Okay. Regions with high levels of belief and bad omens, such as never returning home for something forgotten or refusing to shake hands over a threshold.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

Wait. Never returning home. Never returning home for something forgotten. So if you were to leave for the day and you forgot something at home, you can't go back for it. Weird.

SPEAKER_03 47:29

Interesting. Huh. Interesting. Or refusing to shake hands over something. Over a threshold.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Which makes sense in that little liminal space. Liminal space. Liminal spaces. TBDs. TBD. Um we have Japan. Sure. Many people believe in ghosts and are superstitious about items like mirrors and sleeping positions, often aligning, for example, hospital discharges with lucky days.

SPEAKER_03 47:53

Isn't that interesting? So, like in Jap in Japan, there are like lucky days. So if they're in the hospital, they don't want to really be released on an unlucky day. Oh, yeah. They want to be released on a lucky day.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

Interesting. Wait, what are the sleeping positions?

SPEAKER_03 48:06

Yeah, like specific sleeping positions, they just don't do it.

SPEAKER_00 48:08

Oh God.

SPEAKER_03 48:09

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 48:10

I need to change my sleeping position because it's fucking my neck and backup. But I can't sleep otherwise.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

I'm a side and stomach sleeper.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

What do you do with your wrists?

SPEAKER_00 48:19

Oh, I'm the very same.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

Like I'm curled up and uh I literally it's got it's so bad now that I can sleep like this and my hands are beside me and they still go numb. It's probably a bad sign.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Probably a bad sign. Probably really bad.

SPEAKER_03 48:36

You know, that's future, Jacqueline's project. Future. Yeah. Um all right. Well, let's look at examples of extreme or specific superstitions. So let's start in South Korea. Fan death. Um, a widespread belief that leaving an electric fan running in a sealed room while sleeping can kill you. Well, that's terrible news because I have a partner who cannot sleep without a fan.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

Yeah, I feel that. Does a ceiling fan count as an electric fan? It's run by electric fan.

SPEAKER_02 49:07

I mean, it's yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

Because we have that. I need it. But yeah, that's funny. I was thinking fan death, but literally.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Literally death, yes.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Damn. Uh so in Argentina, a tradition that the seventh son in a row will turn into a werewolf, often leading to the presidential godparenting to break the curse.

SPEAKER_03 49:28

I don't know what the I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

Often leading to presidential godparenting to break the curse.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

So, like I guess your godparents need to somehow break the curse, but I'm interested.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

The seventh son is a thing. Also, that's a great movie. Oh, the seventh son of a seventh son is all magic and shit. Like that's very cool. That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

Um, going over to Turkey. Turkey. So they have the belief that chewing gum at night turns into rotting flesh.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Or that an itchy right hand means impending wealth. I mean, from one extreme to another. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

That is, yeah, two very extremes there. Yeah. Yeah. Ugh, I miss gum.

unknown 50:07

Dog, yeah, you can't.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

I can't do it with my visual orange. I become a mint girl.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Mints are great.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

Mints are great.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:15

Um, Italy. Friday the 17th is considered the unluckiest day rather than predatory.

SPEAKER_03 50:22

So interesting. Very different. And closing it out with Germany, the strong superstition against wishing someone a happy birthday. Early.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Oh, it has to be on the day.

SPEAKER_03 50:36

It has to be on the day. Great segue. Because I will have to tell you, when this episode comes out, it'll be the day before your birthday.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

Great segue.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

So, like, sorry, but happy early birthday.

SPEAKER_00 50:51

True. Unlucky, great. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Happy early birthday, Steven.

SPEAKER_00 50:55

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 50:56

So thankful to have you in my life. I love you. I cherish you, even though you're younger than me and can hear things.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

I can hear things way better than you.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

This is for you. So happy birthday.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Baby, I love you.

SPEAKER_03 51:09

Um, superstitions. Did we miss any? I'm sure of it.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

I'm sure we did.

SPEAKER_03 51:13

Are there anyone, like, is there something that we didn't talk about that you do or subscribe to? Or um. Oh my gosh. I can't believe we didn't talk about this one. The don't step on a crack.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

Oh, I meant to talk about this one. Yeah. I did that as a kid. Not step on a crack. I made sure not to. Got you. Because I never wanted to break my mom's back.

SPEAKER_03 51:35

Your mom's back. Yeah, absolutely. Um, yeah, that's that's that's a big one. I can't believe we didn't discuss that.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Um I got very good at my stride where I could step in the middle of each sidewalk thing. And it was one stride at a time, and I got so good at it.

SPEAKER_03 51:52

Very good. Yeah, man. I have a question. When did we learn about superstitions?

SPEAKER_00 51:58

Like, was this something they taught us in school or was it just I think it's just one of those you learn in life.

SPEAKER_03 52:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the parents maybe tell you. Yeah. Cause like there are a lot of things where I'm like, are the children learning about X, Y, Z?

SPEAKER_00 52:11

I think it's just, yeah, passed down. Yeah. It's like old wives' tales and stuff like that. Is the superstition No that's an old wives' tale. Or is it superstitious about eating after you swim or before you don't go swimming after you eat?

SPEAKER_03 52:27

I mean, you could argue that it is in fact superstitious, but I think it's an old wives' tale where it's like they thought that was an unhealthy move.

SPEAKER_00 52:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

Um I did it all the time.

unknown 52:37

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:38

Who did it? Yeah. Swimming and eating Pop Tarts was like my jam. Oh. Oh. My grandma Wade had the best pool. She had the best snacks. She took good care of us. She always brought out these wonderful little treat trays. Pop-tarts and pool top tarts, baby. I love it. Um yeah, but that's a really good question. Um, yeah, write in. Let us know what superstitions you follow. Yeah. Let us know.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Um, anything else before we actually on the note about writing in, sure. I really want to do an episode of people writing us about their supernatural ghost stories. Yes. I know at least one of you. I'm looking at you. Should I say their name? Do it. I'm looking at you, Wendy. You said you had a bunch of um hospital ghost stories. So write us in. Give it to us.

SPEAKER_03 53:31

Yeah. There have been a couple people who I know in my like real life who have said that.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

I feel like Ali has some too. So Allie.

SPEAKER_03 53:38

Send it in. Send it in everybody. Um, write us at our email. Yeah. Send slide into our DMs. Slide into our DMs. The children still say.

SPEAKER_00 53:46

I really want to do, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:48

Yeah, that'd be awesome. Honestly, if we get enough of them, we don't have to say your name.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

Even though we just didn't know. We just did. Yeah, I apologize. Yeah. I want to do it coming up.

SPEAKER_03 53:57

Yeah, no, for real. Okay, let's start pushing that now.

SPEAKER_00 53:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 54:00

Send us your supernatural or weird sort of tales. Yeah. We don't have to say your name. You can let us know if you want us to say your name or don't want to say your name.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

Um, but write in, please, and we'll read it and we'll tell everyone and we'll just kind of talk about it and unpack it.

SPEAKER_00 54:16

I just think it would be so cool. Yeah, I think so too. Hear about all those. Yeah. Maybe we can also do like a just do you remember Creepy Pasta? Of course I've got to be a good one. Creepy Pasta Stories.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Um if you really want to get hardcore, are you afraid of the dark?

SPEAKER_00 54:30

Or Freaky Stories.

SPEAKER_03 54:32

Remember that? Freaky stories.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Loved that show.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

So good.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Um okay. Well, thank you, Steven. That was really smart. Okay, so thank you so much for listening to the Weirdos of Whimsy. We will be back again soon with another episode that guides you through the weird and whimsical journey that is our brains. Be sure to follow us on Instagram and YouTube and TikTok at Weirdos of Whimsy Pod. Watch that space for updates, re release dates, and other treats and delectable morsels. Say goodbye, Stevie.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

So long farewell, everybody.

SPEAKER_03 55:11

And as always, big gulps, eh?

SPEAKER_01 55:15

Well, see you later.