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The World is About to Come Unglued: UFO Disclosure 2026 Part 1

Stevie & Jacklynn Episode 43

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Weirdos!!! This week, we're diving deep into the latest (and perhaps most terrifying) updates in the world of UAP Disclosure. After a weekend celebrating Beltane and a dual 80s-themed birthday bash, Stevie shares a firsthand account of a mysterious glowing "oblong" object over Kitchener. Was it a spotlight, or was it Stevie’s first official "Close Encounter"?

In This Episode, We Discuss:

  • Beltane & The Flower Moon: Rituals, propane tank mishaps, and why the neighbours probably think we're "the local gay witches now."
  • 🛸 The Disclosure Act 2026: Why the government is shifting from "UFO" to "UAP" (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena).
  • 📁 The Paper Trail: How Congress is finally following the money to find secret crash retrieval programs.
  • 🗣️ The Whistleblowers: Breaking down the startling testimonies of Dylan Borland (Langley’s triangular craft) and Jeffrey Nusitelli (The Vandenberg "Red Square").
  • 🔥 The "Fire" Briefing: Why Representative Tim Burchett says the truth would "set the earth on fire."

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SPEAKER_03

We are now closer than we ever have been to disclosure.

SPEAKER_06

So true.

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Earlier this year, the White House and El Dusho issued a major directive to intelligence agencies to begin the systematic identification and release of government files related to non-human intelligence in UAPs. Okay. UAPs, of course, to remind everyone, unidentified anomalous phenomena. So we've gone from UFO to UAP, which was unidentified aerial phenomena, to now unidentified unidentified anomalous. Oh I would like to point out, see, it's happening again. I would like to point out the fact that someone, they, the collective they are choosing to change the title of what this is, um, also speaks to the fact that like they're taking it seriously. Yeah. Because unidentified flying objects to me and to obviously the government is way too vague.

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Yeah.

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While that's my favorite one, and I'll always say UFO because it's just like fun and cool. You guessed it, Whimsicks. Hi, my name is Jaclyn. And I'm Stevie. And we're back. We are back with you, fellow weirdos. Um it's delightful to be here. Back, back, back, back again. Back, back, back again. Um, but before we get into our episode, yes, Steven, I feel like we have like some stuff to discuss.

SPEAKER_01

We I feel like we do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So yesterday uh the time of this recording, it will have been almost a week ago. I guess like five or six days. Um but it was Beltane.

SPEAKER_01

It was.

SPEAKER_03

Which was wonderful.

SPEAKER_01

It was Beltane and uh uh uh oh my god, what's the other I've been saying or I've been seeing videos of it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, the Gaelic version of it?

SPEAKER_01

Beltana.

SPEAKER_03

Beltana, yeah. Belt Beltana. I can't say it. As you all know, we cannot pronounce Irish or Gaelic words.

SPEAKER_01

But also on the same day, it was the flower full moon.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, oh my gosh. And it was beautiful. So I've come to our beautiful studio. We had an incredible little ceremony outside. We toasted Mother Moon, the flower moon. We did our own little ritual for Beltane. Um, Steven almost lit himself a fire.

SPEAKER_01

Sure did. Maybe I should we should post that on. That'd be hilarious.

SPEAKER_03

That is the one thing we absolutely will post.

SPEAKER_01

If you're okay with the hilarity. The hilarity.

SPEAKER_03

You guys, I cried for about a minute and a half laughing.

SPEAKER_01

I had to change the propane tank, and it might have been on for two seconds longer than it should have. I've it's never happened before. I light that fire table all the time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. It was it was because you were recording me. Of course, of course. Of course. Like the first the first time when I was recording and it lit, but it was like two, you're like, the propane was low. Stephen was like, get back. I'm like, oh man. And then it was like nothing. Nothing. And then we like are just closer to it, no warning at all, and just we got cocky. It was yeah. We definitely have to post that. It's just so funny. Um, so that was wonderful and lovely. Uh the neighbors definitely don't like us now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. What did I say yesterday? I was like, uh, Willis, not only are they gay, but they're witches.

SPEAKER_03

Listen, it's because this is the best house on the block. It's true. Um, what else? We also had your birthday party and Aaron's birthday party, which was so fun. We had the best time, 80s little 80s moment.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we had a blast.

SPEAKER_03

We had a fun, fun time. How are you enjoying being the age you are now? I don't want to out you.

SPEAKER_01

Uh 38. I'll say.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. See you.

SPEAKER_01

Well done. My body has been doing weird things. Sure. Even just in what, a week? Yeah. I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Weird, painful things. I don't like it.

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I hope you're okay. I hope you're okay. You know what's wild is I can say this like for another week, we are the same age.

SPEAKER_01

Uh we are years old together.

SPEAKER_03

Oh. Um then what's happening tonight? What's happening tonight? Do you want to share it with the children? Or something like that.

SPEAKER_01

So tonight I was invited along because this was a you and your cousin thing, right? Or was this a you thing?

SPEAKER_03

It started out as like a me thing, and then I absolutely was talking to my cousin about it. But then I think I went to you about it first to say, do you want to go to this? And then I went to my cousin, was like, I think we should go to this. Do you want to go to this? And she was like, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. So we're going to see Youngblood is Youngblood.

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Cannot wait.

SPEAKER_01

Youngblood is fucking hot. Oh my God. Like rocker vampire, like gothy Kendall. Gothy Kendall. I know that's a drag queen, but still.

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I love that.

SPEAKER_03

Right? Yeah. No, like he's everything. He's so hot. He's so hot. He's so like. I love me the lean skinny boys who are like muscular and tattooed and grungy.

SPEAKER_01

Our friend Tony has called that a rat boyfriend.

SPEAKER_03

Really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Because that vibe is weirdly, like, we're kind of into it sometimes.

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm so into it. Like, no Tino Shade to my wonderful partner who I love so much. But like, I don't know about you, but I did not end up with quote unquote my type.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, did I?

SPEAKER_03

Right? Like at all. And like I Youngblood is, well, if you look at my past, like the skinny. That's true. You know what I mean? So um skinny built, very let's just leave it at that. Um but Youngblood is like, yeah, he's my he's my absolute.

SPEAKER_01

And when you watch videos of him, he'll like lean in and the eye contact he gives. His lips, the eyes, stunning.

SPEAKER_03

He he's like all about um, you know, consensual kind of interactions with his fans.

SPEAKER_01

It's very what? Like very Gen Z heavy metal.

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100%, but he's like so sexy and so talented. So talented. The man can sing.

SPEAKER_01

I think I only really know one or two songs, but it's gonna be a sparse.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not gonna ask you which ones they are right now because I don't want to put you on the spot. Okay. But um we will be listening to him the entire time through the car to the train. Okay, so yeah, yeah. No, that's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01

The only one I can name is Zombie, obviously.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, and it's just oh I get shivers. I'm gonna start crying for sure when he plays it. Um so yeah, we're doing that tonight. It's gonna be great. Perhaps there'll be footage. Um, it's just gonna be so much fun.

SPEAKER_01

There's gonna be a pop-up, apparently, and I really they have pop-up tattoos, like flash tattoos. Yes. And if we're one of the first 50 people, which already we're not.

SPEAKER_03

Already we're not, no.

SPEAKER_01

I I would have got one.

SPEAKER_03

I completely agree. Yeah. No, like for sure. I would have. I already know exactly where it'd have gone and everything.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you are down here, buddy. That's okay. We love Osiris. He can't. Shut the door, so he's trapped down here.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, well, hey, that's all right. He's probably like, what the hell, Dad? Um, okay, so.

SPEAKER_01

What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think it's time we gave an alien update, don't you?

SPEAKER_01

I think so too. As you can tell, as you can tell.

SPEAKER_03

Right? Like, it's just it's time.

SPEAKER_01

This is Jacqueline's shirt. I had to borrow it.

SPEAKER_03

Like, what's the shit?

SPEAKER_01

And I look cute. You look so cute. I told Dan, I was like, this is the do I need to buy women's t-shirts? Because this sleeve length is what I would love.

SPEAKER_03

That's the one. That is the one. Like fully party people. I love my best friend Steven very much. I cherish him. I need him in my life all the time. However, he comes out looking like that, and I'm like, great. Great. You look fantastic in my clothes. And he's like, Can I keep this? And I was like, absolutely not. Not only is that my favorite movie, but it's one of my favorite shirts. But this is my ultimate.

SPEAKER_01

Clearly, you don't love me that much.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Well cuff me now. Okay. Take me away. Um, but yeah, this is my favorite alien. I really like this on tour when Blink was here a couple of years ago. So it's got a sweet little spaceship on the back, too.

SPEAKER_01

But like that's have you explained what Blink has to do with UFOs? We talked about it in the last one. We probably did.

SPEAKER_03

Are you being funny?

SPEAKER_01

Have you explained to the party people?

SPEAKER_04

Are you being funny right now?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Am I? I can't remember. We talked about it. Yes. I l we talked about this before. We have I black out what we've talked about in past episodes. Unless I listened to it again.

SPEAKER_03

Right, which we should honestly we kind of should have done. But I was just gonna make that point. Party people, if you haven't listened to parts one, two, and three of Aliens Exist. It was a three-parter live. It was a three-parter because I just went off.

SPEAKER_01

You did.

SPEAKER_03

Like I just went off.

SPEAKER_01

There was no if you haven't listened to the UFO episodes yet. When we talk about alien aliens and UFOs, this is when Jacqueline gets like weird nerdy. Like she gets intense nerdy.

SPEAKER_03

And it's it's not organized at all because as we've discussed, undiagnosed. So my main my brain is just like like it literally is that. And it was like spitting out.

SPEAKER_01

You were short circuiting last night trying to write the episode.

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I was.

SPEAKER_03

I had to walk away several times and then I forced you or something. Because there's just so much in there. It's just so much. So today's a little different. I've kind of focused on one specific thing. Um, but to answer Steven's ridiculous question, yes, we have talked about it. Tom DeLong, who is my man in the world. Tom DeLong. Now you're just being funny. Now you're just trying to get me to explode. Um, Tom, of course, for the people who maybe haven't had a chance to listen to one, two, and three, but like I'm telling you, pause, go listen to one, two, and three. There's a lot in there. It will be three hours of your life, and you may never get back. But um Tom left Blink to pursue outing aliens.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like that's literally one of the main reasons that he left the band back in the day. And guess what? He did it. I have a shirt that I will be in this next news flash. This is gonna be part one of part two. Newsplash. It says Tom was right because he was in like directly involved. Him and his team was directly involved in outing a lot of the footage that um kind of allowed this, what we're talking to, to snowball and to work. So yeah, really exciting. Cool. Um, it's already happening. I'm already like so. Let's get back to what I wrote because that's gonna allow me to stay focused.

SPEAKER_06

Focused.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so Steven, I would love for you to kick it off by telling the really interesting story that happened to you. Was it a week ago? It was the day after your birthday party.

SPEAKER_01

No, I think it was before.

SPEAKER_03

It was before. Was it? I thought it was a Saturday after when you were just chilling. Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe it was.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Saturday night. Anyway, cut two. I'm lying on the couch just like recuperating. Because it was the day you wouldn't have left. I left and Steven starts messaging me and over to you because this is wild.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, I'm out. It's I want to say maybe what, nine, ten o'clock? Yeah. It was definitely later.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

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Um so it's dark outside. I'm taking Merlin, my dog, for a walk. We're walking around. We're there's a park on the corner near my house. And I get there, so I'm like within a minute of home. And then I stop and I see it, I would say it was a very bright, like what's the word I'm looking for? Like oblong. Yes. Okay, yeah. Oval.

SPEAKER_04

An oval shape.

SPEAKER_01

An oval illuminated, bright light in the sky. And it looked like it was above the clouds, and it was like illuminating the top of the clouds, shining through the bottom. Do you know what I mean? I'm trying to paint a picture.

SPEAKER_03

I sure do, because I saw the video.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I did send a uh video.

SPEAKER_03

Which we will also post. Yes. Hold us to it, party.

SPEAKER_01

Um so I immediately voice note Jackson. I was like, oh my God. And I I like I start stuttering. I was like, I need wait, I need to, I need to focus. I'm getting all flustered. Oh my god, oh my God. But I think I may be witnessing a UFO, my first ever UFO. So I'm like, oh my God, what do I do? So I'm standing there, I'm standing there, I'm watching, I'm looking. And then it kind of floating there for a minute, and then it does dart off. Like it started a little slow and then darted off and it disappeared. So I'm like, holy shit. And that's when I voice note you and I message. And then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna stay here for a little bit, see what happens. Yeah. And then it does come back. And the second time is when I videoed it to send to you.

SPEAKER_03

Because I'm like, take off. Which you wouldn't you were gonna do afterwards.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. In that moment, isn't it? Can I just like interject real quickly? Did you feel like hot? Yeah. Yeah. It's wild how you feel like hot and overwhelmed and you're like, now in the moment, I'm trying to think critically as well.

SPEAKER_01

It's hard to, but I tried.

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Yes. Um that's what we like to do here. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm like trying to like see its movements. And I stayed at it long enough that I it wasn't a um um quick pattern. It took a while, but there was a slight pattern to it. And I was like, it almost does look like a spotlight, which I've never seen in the area before. I've lived here, what, almost three years? Three years? Three years. Never seen a spotlight in this area ever before.

SPEAKER_03

Um also why would it be? It's just houses. It's literal We're in suburbia. Yeah, like rolls and rolls and rolls of just homes. Yes. And then the highway.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I watched a while and it did keep kind of like circling back and then leaving and circling back and leaving. And there was a good like maybe five-minute chunk between each movement.

SPEAKER_03

But it was scary.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, it was it was it was cool, it was scary, it was fun, it was exciting.

SPEAKER_03

It moved weirdly, like it moved weirdly. It didn't move so sorry, keep going. You came to the conclusion that I think that it was a spotlight.

SPEAKER_01

Sure.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

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Um, I'm hoping it was a UFO, but I I'm pretty upsure it was a spotlight.

SPEAKER_03

Especially because if it was um like the pattern that you're talking about, it was doing it over and over and over again. Now, having said that, some could argue that means it isn't a spotlight.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but it's just weird because like we've all remember going to the club. The club and sometimes like children, I'm talking about 2008. Right? 2007, 2008. Like we're 20 and 21 years old.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And there were certain clubs that um had spotlights going constantly when you'd like pull up. But that's the thing. It wasn't constant.

SPEAKER_01

And they never with a spotlight, they never disappear completely.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Cause like it literally does this, or it moves around, or it's like you put them on a pattern, you set it, and you forget. Yeah. Not that I've run a spotlight before, but like this looked like someone was like holding it and maneuvering it because it'd like stay there and then it'd quickly move over and then stay there, and then it like slowly pan.

SPEAKER_01

It was just and it wasn't in a like uh in a circle.

SPEAKER_03

No, it wasn't like a a looping kind of motion.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I could have maybe seen a UFO, but I am I would say like 95% sure it was a spotlight.

SPEAKER_03

I wondered if like I started sort of googling like news stories in his area to see if there was something.

SPEAKER_01

She did immediately she went into like journalist research remote. She's like, oh my god, what's in the area? Right there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like I was like, is there a missing boat? Is there and then I was like, there's no water anywhere around here. And then I was like, is there, you know, like a missing, I don't know, like whatever, skydiver, whatever. But I I couldn't find anything. Um and yeah, it was interesting because it was so cloudy and it was just going up against the clouds. So then we kind of talked about like, is this a um like a you and a me who's got this insanely bright light that's like, let's look into the sky. You know, like those kinds of flashlights do exist. I also know the military and um OPP have those kinds of really, really bright lights. Okay. That's why I wondered like, are they missing someone? Are they looking for someone? But I don't know why it was moving in the way that it was. Yeah. So thank you for sharing, Steven. It was we it was weird. And I was very excited for you because I was like, it's finally happening to us. I was like finally happening.

SPEAKER_01

It's not a ghost, it's an alien, which is probably more um it's way scarier. Way scarier, but also more maybe realistic or um Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um it's not beyond the realm of possibilities. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally, totally. Good one. Good one. Thanks. Great share. Thanks, right? Um, okay. So with that disclosure.

SPEAKER_01

We're talking about disclosure.

SPEAKER_03

We're talking about disclosure, or at least it for now.

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For now. For now. What do we mean when we say that? What's included, what's excluded, and where do we go from here? First, let's remind everyone that we did a three-part series. Oh, we've talked about this. We talked about this again. A three-part series of a basic generalized overview of aliens and Jacqueline's story of how she became obsessed in the early days of this podcast.

SPEAKER_03

And now you too. Really? Oh, absolutely. My favorite part of that is like when I do listen back to it, because I have, because like Newsflash, we listen to our own podcast. Um I laugh because I'm like, I sound so insane insane. And Steven is just like my hostage. Like, you're you are there along for the ride. You ask great questions. Do I? You do. There's great engagement. There's great engagement, but it's like so clearly me spiraling and you being like, I'm just gonna watch this happen. I love it. Because like, yeah. But you do you keep me in line and you're like asking the questions.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that's surprising.

SPEAKER_03

No, you did a good job. Really good job. So, but yes, go back and listen to it. Aliens exist, part one, two, and three. Yes. Um, they're fine. Huzzle. They're fine. It's also there's no video. Uh oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That was one of the early ones.

SPEAKER_03

That was really, yeah. That was back in the day when we were in a different room and there was no video.

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Uh back in the easy days of recording.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, sat down, did it, and called it a lot.

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And we didn't have to like look put together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like, God, we did it in pajamas most of the time. We did.

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Up in my office, and we've just like uh it was fantastic. We'll do it again.

SPEAKER_03

Um okay, so let's start nice and easy. Okay. So disclosure. When we talk about it um right here and right now in this moment, because many things happen very quickly at all hours of the day. Yeah. Um, it means the act of the world's governments, or really in this case, at least one of them, informing the public of extraterrestrial or ultraterrestrial technology, beings, craft, everything from weapons to little green men to flying saucers and beyond.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Did we talk about ultra-terrestrials in the last episode?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Um, but hey, we can cover it again. So, like um, there are theories that um they come from this earth, i.e., in the ocean or in the rock or in the center of the earth, or ultra-terrestrial could also be like of another dimension. It's not necessarily outward in space, but it's like cutting through time and space and cutting through different dimensions. So lots of lots of things. Um, see, I'm already off trap. Off topic. Okay, so um I don't know if I said this, but I'm gonna say it again. We are now closer than we ever have been to disclosure.

SPEAKER_06

So true.

SPEAKER_03

Earlier this year, the White House and El Dusho issued a major directive to intelligence agencies to begin the systematic identification and release of government files related to non-human intelligence in UAPs. Okay. UAPs, of course, to remind everyone, unidentified anomalous phenomena. So we've gone from UFO to UAP, which was unidentified aerial phenomena, to now unidentified, unidentified anomalous which I would like to point out. See, it's happening again. I would like to point out the fact that someone, they, the collective they are choosing to change the title of what this is, um, also speaks to the fact that like they're taking it seriously. Yeah. Because unidentified flying objects to me and to obviously the government is way too vague.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

While that's my favorite one, and I will always say UFO because it's just like fun and cool. Um, unidentified anomalous phenomena really comes. Yeah. It really drives like drills down into like these we know it's not weather balloons, we know it's not a plane, we know it's not you know what I mean? Unidentified flying object. It could be a plane, we're just not sure of it yet. Yeah. This to me could have been a weather balloon. Correct. We're not sure. Yeah. Is like we don't know what these things are. Yeah. Okay. Back to you, Steven.

SPEAKER_01

Let's go. Uh so they also officially registered aliens.gov as a domain name in March of this year, which is what, two months ago? Yep. Um, which people are saying is signaling a centralized portal for the public to access declassified records.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and fun tip if you try and go to that site, you can't. At least my computer tells me that it's unsafe and I need to go back to safety.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Yeah. Have you tried to get through that?

SPEAKER_03

Um, I don't want to click anything because like I've been burned from I'm sure it's not active yet.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But also, well, let's go to the libraries.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Like, why are they making it seem like it's unsafe to do it? Right.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's true. Um, they are also focusing on the paper trail push. Unlike previous years that focused on pilot videos, the current push is heavily focused on the bureaucratic paper trail. Investigating where funding for legacy programs may have been hidden. Basically, show me the receipts. Lawmakers are investigating if money has been funneled into private aerospace companies for legacy programs, uh, covert efforts to retrieve and analyze non-human technology. Exactly. That was a lot of I don't know if I made that whole paragraph make sense. I was like, I don't really know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

You did a great job and you know exactly what you're saying. Just like you said, show me the receipt. Show me the receipt. So it's like they're looking, yeah, they they want to see um proof of uh money that's being spent. So like to kind of break it down.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

If there is a receipt, really keep it basic for an undisclosed project that is forty billion dollars. I'm not saying that that that happened. I'm just choosing a number.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um the government will be like, we are now gonna find out why you spent forty billion dollars. Like what what what is this? I don't want to just know that it's classified.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, the government is looking into it. They're doing themselves the Congress.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So great kind of um question, Stephen.

SPEAKER_01

Like the government's looking into itself.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_01

Pretty, pretty much.

SPEAKER_03

Finally, people who have not been historically part of like uh Department of Defense or um, you know, your eyes only kind of part of these kinds of projects. Congress is now saying, well, hold on a second. If this division of the government is spending all this money and they've never been held accountable, we're now holding you accountable. Tell us what you're you're doing.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Cool. Okay. Okay. So to that point, um Congress remains the primary engine for transparency, as we just discussed, uh, with a focus on whistleblower safety. So a whistleblower is someone who's been in the action and they've decided, I am no longer going to be a part of this because what we're doing should be shared.

SPEAKER_01

We watched one last night.

SPEAKER_03

We sure did, which we'll get to later on. Um so when it comes to whistleblower protections, the goal is to create a safe harbor for individuals involved in alleged sort of secret crash retrieval programs or reverse engineering programs to come forward without losing their security clearances or obviously impact their lives in any way.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So um, we all know that, you know, the hearings really really kind of kicked off in 2023, which again, I'm getting ahead of myself. We're gonna get to that in a second. But recent hearings in late 2025 and early of this year, of course, 2026, um, have centered on protecting these witnesses. For example, two that I wanted to kind of talk about. Um, Jeffrey Nussatelli, a former military police officer, and Dylan Borland, an Air Force veteran. Um, both of these men have testified in front of Congress about their encounters. Okay. Um, I figure if we have if we can, I'd like to kind of go over their statements.

SPEAKER_02

Love it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So Dylan Borland, let's start with him. He said he saw a large triangular craft in 2021 while at Langley. I don't know if I need to impress upon the party people how important that is. Langley, of course, is where the CIA headquarters is.

SPEAKER_06

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So, like, kind of a big deal. Um, so I'm gonna dive in. I've got his written statement for the House of Representatives task force, which again was earlier this year.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I'm not gonna read all of it, although I could, and it's really, really interesting. I definitely recommend everyone goes and checks it on YouTube. Okay. It's just wild to see these people sit in front of a giant room of their peers and powerful government officials, Congress, hello, and say these things.

SPEAKER_01

What would they search on YouTube? Just um Dylan Borland.

SPEAKER_03

Dylan Borland written testimony. Okay. Yeah, is a good place to start.

SPEAKER_01

There you go.

SPEAKER_03

Um, okay, so it talks about who he is. Again, I'm not gonna go like 100% into it, but I'm just going to dive in uh right here. So from 2011 through 2013, I was stationed at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia, conducting 24-hour operations via manned and unmanned aerial vehicles or UAV for Special Operations Forces for the Global War on Terror. Kind of a big deal.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_03

So during the summer of 2012, my team was on standby for weather and I returned back to my barracks on base. At approximately 1:30 a.m., I saw an approximately 100-foot-long equilateral triangle fly from near the NASA hangar on base and come within 100 feet of where I was standing. Holy shit. Okay. This craft interfered with my telephone, did not have any sound, and the material it was made of appeared fluid or dynamic.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I was under this triangular craft for a few minutes and then it rapidly ascended to commercial jet level in seconds. We're that's like 40,000 feet, 37,000, 38,000 feet in seconds. Back to him. Um, it displayed zero kinetic disturbance, sound, or wind displacement.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Some years after that experience, I was further exposed to classified information from the UAP legacy crash retrieval program through a sensitive position I held with the special access program. During that time, intelligence officers approached me in fear for their own careers, citing misconduct misconduct rather within these programs and the same retaliation I was already enduring.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

So like they came forward and said this happened. Obviously, everything the military does, either what either secret or not, it's all recorded. It's all, you know, documented. So he was getting heat from it like immediately. So he goes on to Yeah, he goes on to essentially say, like, he describes a little bit more retaliation, um, which is again why these kinds of testimony um matter, because that shouldn't be happening. Think of it like this if you're treated mis um, you know, if you're treated poorly or you are, you know, under scrutiny in your regular day job, you know what I mean? Like that's not okay. You can't just do that because you saw something that's not okay and you decided to report on it. Yeah. This is on a way more important scale, a global scale, if you will. So I just, you know, that was a little bit about what he saw. I just thought it was important to share.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, yeah. Right. I love this.

SPEAKER_03

So when it comes to Newsitelle. Newsitelle. So New Satelli said he witnessed what has uh come to be known as the uh Vandenberg Red Square. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Red Square now. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So this happened at Vandenberg Air Force, which is in Santa Barbara County in California.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um, also home to the Nasha uh National Missile Defense Project, no big deal. Just a chop national security program. Uh, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Um I have a question to ask after this. Okay. Remind me.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, hopefully I know it. Uh so here's more of his written testimony about what he saw. Okay. So remember, this is the former military police officer who has 16 years of active duty service in the United States Air Force. Um, here we go. Between 2003 and 2005, five UAP incidents occurred at the Vandenberg Air Force Base, home to the National Missile Defense Project, a top national security priority. At the time, we were conducting launches deemed by the National Reconnaissance Office as, quote, the most important in 25 years. Big deals, big deals. These facilities were vital and they were repeatedly visited by UAP. Like, that's a problem. That's a problem. Each incident was witnessed by multiple personnel, documented, investigated, and reported up the chain of command. We sent information up, but no guidance came down. I personally witnessed one of these events and investigated others. Six other service members, all direct eyewitnesses, have provided the information I share with you today. The incursions began on October 14th, 2003, when Boeing contractors reported a massive glowing red square silently hovering over two missile defense sites.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

After several minutes, uh yeah. Like, sound the alarm.

SPEAKER_01

Hovering red square. Also, like in your mind, you picture like, you know, the typical discovery. Like a g a red discussion. A red giant red square. Yeah. Oh my god, Hellasapana.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty much. Pretty much. Um, after several minutes, it drifted east and vanished beyond the hills.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

This event, now known as the Vandenberg Red Square, was later referenced by Representative Luna, who was the person who was managing this um past congressional hearings during the first public hearing on this topic.

SPEAKER_01

So also squares aren't that aerial. What's the word I'm looking for?

SPEAKER_03

Aerodynamic. Aerodynamic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's funny that you say that. So then there's like um he talks about what was reported, you know, a bright, fast-moving object. He includes a couple of radio um responses. It's coming right at us. It's here, it's right here, it's gone. Right? Like they're all reacting in real time. So everyone was really freaked out about it. Um, and then about a week later, another patrol reported a strange light over the ocean heading towards the base. It just goes on to say, like, this was essentially reported, and everyone who saw these kind of UAPs were threatened and told to stay quiet about the incident. Wow. And said, do not report this any further. Right? So he goes on a lot more kind of uh he he essentially talks about this red square was like the size of a football field. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

That's like mothership territory, right? Or not, and that's the size of the normal scout ships so terrifying.

SPEAKER_03

So go and watch their statements, please. These are just two examples of um wild wild questions. Okay, yes, what's your question? I hope I know it. I might not. No, it's more of like a skeptic question. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I know there are other sightings in the world. Oh, yeah. But why are so many of them American?

SPEAKER_03

This comes up a lot. Yeah, this comes up a lot.

SPEAKER_01

Which could lead back to I know we're gonna talk about it, but what we watched last night, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yes. Um, so I personally have a couple of thoughts on that. Okay. Number one, I know that that's not just the case. Um, there are lots of reports in Brazil.

SPEAKER_01

There's lots of reports um, you know, it just seems like the most because common one or the the ones you hear about most, I guess, maybe because we're in North America.

SPEAKER_03

I was just gonna say, so America is supposed to be the the strongest, most fierce, rich, weaponized country on the face of the earth. Yeah. Their military is second to none. It's unmatched. So like the fact that these things are getting into military covert operation bases where there are literal missiles hidden in the hills. I mean, that makes sense. That's crazy, right? Like, how are how can the strongest, arguably best military in the world allow this to happen?

SPEAKER_01

Like if aliens or whatever are going to come and check out our planet, potentially invade, or just like be here. I mean, they would want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03

Wouldn't you start with the strongest one?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, not only that, but yeah, like there are what's the population of the US now? Thirty three hundred three hundred and fifty million?

SPEAKER_01

Sure.

SPEAKER_03

Something like that.

SPEAKER_01

Something like that.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna Google it really quickly just because but it's a great um uh question, Steven. It has come up a lot and it's like always in the movies, but to me, it's because yeah, 342 to 349 million people in the stays right now. Yeah. Um I think it's just one of those like you have the resources to talk about it. The the government is the strongest in the world. Um, you know, like are there people in poor areas of Brazil who see it? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah who are they gonna tell?

SPEAKER_03

Who's gonna listen? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Um and maybe spoilers from ahead, but um it also could be the American government doing all of their tests. Could be American government doing all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_03

Like, don't think for a second, I'm sure I've shared this before. Again, I'm spiraling. I think they've got something.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, they have to. Right. I I feel like we have talked about this before too. But like the technological jump and an advancement within what, like a hundred years? Yeah, which has never happened in human history ever that we're aware of. Right. Um, is insane. There's gotta be something.

SPEAKER_03

I just right and like it just so happens that that they got it. So but great question, Steven. Thank you. Happy to unpack that further as we go.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Uh, next we have David Grush. David Grush. David Grush.

SPEAKER_03

Poster boy, love him, have a huge crush on him. He's so cute. Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, he's so cute. I don't know what he looks like. Oh, he's very cute. Um, so he's a former U.S. military intelligence officer who gained international attention in 2023. Yes. When he came forward as a whistleblower, alleging that the United States government has a secret multi-decade program focused on the retrieval and reverse engineering of non-human spacecraft. Right. Look at that. Um, his testimony is a landmark moment in UAP history because of his high-level credentials and his decision to testify under oath. Right.

SPEAKER_03

So we love David Grush. Again, stop- I talked about him, I believe, in the last few episodes because his big testimony in 2023 was like wild.

SPEAKER_01

Love it. I want to see what he looks like.

SPEAKER_03

Which we'll get to. Yeah, he's really cute. Um, not a super skinny rock star, like I just said, is my type. But he has different types. He's like, he's like, he's got like a deep voice, and he's just, yeah. He's cute. I'll wait, I'll wait till you take a look.

SPEAKER_02

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

No? I mean, you know. Not for me. You and I have very different tastes. Can I see the photo you're looking at?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, all of those. Is that him?

SPEAKER_03

I just think he's so good looking. He's just like a like a sexy silver fox.

SPEAKER_01

Generic white man.

SPEAKER_03

No, I think he's so good looking. I like I like it.

SPEAKER_01

A generic straight white man. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Go to Jerem. Okay, right now, go to Instagram and go to Jeremy Corbell's.

SPEAKER_01

Jeremy.

SPEAKER_03

Jeremy Corbell. We might have to end this sooner than I thought.

SPEAKER_01

Right?

SPEAKER_03

Um where are we here? Oh no, we're close. We're close.

SPEAKER_01

K or C?

SPEAKER_03

C Corbell. C-O-R-B-E-L-L. And there's like a shot of him with a cute little beard. Um, David Grush. I don't know why this is so important to me. No, you know what? I'll show you later. By the way, I think David Rush is handsome as hell. And it's like a big tall man. Okay. Um, so let's continue on my of my little crush of David Grush. Ooh, right. So background and credentials. So David Grush's military service, he is a decorated combat veteran and former Air Force officer. Um, he had a big intelligence role. He worked for the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, or the NGA, and the National Reconnaissance Office, which we talked about earlier, the NRO. Um he has been part of the UAP task force from 2019 to 2021. He served as the NRO's representative to the Pentagon's United Aerial Phenomena Task Force. So, like this exists, the Pentagon. That's back again, years ago when Tom DeLong forced the issue, and they all said, Okay, yeah, we have a team that actually investigated this.

SPEAKER_02

I love it.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so this actually gave him access to highly classified information. Wow. Okay. So let's talk a little bit about his July 2023 testimonial.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So in this testimony, before the House Oversight Committee and subsequent interviews, Grush made several explosive claims. Yes. Uh he alleged that the US and other nations possess intact and partially intact vehicles of non-human origin. That is a direct quote. That's wild.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

unknown

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Uh he also stated that biologics or remains of pilots were recovered from some of these crash sites, which he clarified were non-human based on the assessments of people with direct knowledge.

SPEAKER_03

Hello. Again. Literally. Literally. Alien life forms. Alien life forms. Here's the thing. This was a big deal for me years ago.

unknown

And I don't know why everyone wasn't losing their minds.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm happy to talk about it as often as possible. Like that's the thing. This is three years ago. And it hit the news. For me, it was a huge deal, and like the UFO community was like going absolutely wild. Yeah. It made the news day for like one afternoon.

SPEAKER_01

That's nuts. Isn't it? See, and this is why you like you wonder if the government is like making it so that it's don't not a thing. I'm telling you. Um he claimed these programs have been illegally shielded from congressional oversight for decades through misappropriation of funds.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Again, show us the receipts.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um Grush also alleged that he and others faced administrative terrorism and brutal retaliation for attempting to bring this information to light, even stating that he feared for his life at the end.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he goes on the record to say like him and his wife have been like harassed several, several times. Again, which is why we we, Congress is like, we need to protect these whistleblowers to keep people coming from. Right. So let's talk about official responses and of course skepticism. So when it comes to the Pentagon, which is it's wild because they've been kind of like all over the map. Okay. So the Department of Defense, or DOD, is commonly referred to, and the all-domain anomaly resolution office, which is called Arrow. Arrow. Okay. Arrow is important. We're gonna talk a lot about Arrow. Um, they have both stated that they have found no verifiable information to support the existent the existence of any programs involving extraterrestrial materials. So these two government-funded and created organizations, you know, whatever groups, if you will, they literally exist to like protect and find things out, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, but are saying there's nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Nothing. Which is insane.

SPEAKER_03

I find that right very, very difficult to believe. So the scientific community, of course, many scientists remain skeptical, noting that while Grush's testimony is compelling, he's not yet provided public physical evidence, meaning photos, documents, videos, materials.

SPEAKER_01

It's literally just his work. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

His claims are primarily based on interviews he's conducted with over 40 witnesses rather than first hand sightings of the craft. Right. So, like, of course, but how could he smuggle that out of there? How I don't know. I just like also I I have another theory. Um, I think he's got it, and he doesn't want like we are not prepared.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Do you know what I mean? The the world would collapse if actual correct, like, like undeniable proof came out. Right. I mean, what did I say last night? We've made uh the world has become so like religion forward.

SPEAKER_03

100%. Um, so to that point, actually, I'm gonna quit quickly take this over here, Steven. Go for it. Um, so finally, when it comes to legislative action, Grush's claims directly influenced the UAP Disclosure Act, which is where we're at now, um, which sought to mandate the declassification of government records related to UAPs. Okay. So the current status where we're at right now. As of early 2026, David Grush remains a central figure in the transparency movement. Um, while some of his most outlandish claims, such as the spacecraft recovered in Italy in 1933 with the help of the Vatican, um, remain unproven. His actions have successfully pushed Congress to hold more classified briefings and investigate how special access programs are funded. So, again, everything we just kind of talked about, like it's a it's a slow process. Hello, this kind of kicked off in 2017. Well, yeah, decades ago. But 2017 is when Tom DeLong and his whole team like forced the issue. All these videos were released. They finally said, Okay, you got me. Like it exists. Area 51 is real. We are kind of looking at this. But these groups, you know, while they're real, we aren't finding anything. Yeah. And then more and more people are coming forward, being like, that's bullshit because I've gone to you many times with video evidence, with um recorded, you know, photos, whatever statements, it um incidents. And they're being like, no, no, no, no, no, quiet, quiet, shut up, or like threatening people or whatever. Um so now it's like finally coming around to be like, okay, we are spending money on this. Yeah. This is where it's going. Whistleblowers now need to be protected because so many people are in danger, which we'll also get to. Um, but before we close her down for part one, Steven, why don't you talk us through what we're about? Because what you just said is what we're about to come to. Okay, perfect.

SPEAKER_01

I always jump the gun. I always jump the gun. I get excited. Um so we have the fire briefing. Yes. So in April 2026, which is literally what, yesterday? The day before. Two days ago. Two days ago. April 2026, shortly after the idiot to the south of us said he found very articles. I can't do a Trump accent.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, hold on. Let's try it. It's huge. You're not gonna like it, but it's huge, okay? Very interesting stuff. Very, it's huge. It's gonna change everything.

SPEAKER_01

That's good. Thank you. That was good. Um, so the US Representative Tim Burchett, Burchett. Republican from Tennessee. Papa Lakin. Um a prominent voice in Congress regarding uh unidine uh unidentified anomalous phenomena. That is hard to say. Tough UAP. UAP. UAP. Um this guy made startling claims about classified briefings he had received. Burchett stated that the information presented, particularly in a session held around late March or early 2026, was so extreme it would have set the earth on fire and caused the country to come unglued if made public.

SPEAKER_04

Quote unquote. That's insane.

SPEAKER_01

Right? So funny that you say that, Steven.

SPEAKER_03

It it would be literally what they're saying.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It needs to happen, but it would because everyone was like, nah, God. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_03

It would, it would, it would simply, I think, I think a lot of people would be like, yeah, we already knew this. Like, yeah, thank you for finally saying it. But a lot of people would be on unraveling.

SPEAKER_01

It would be like riots. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Totally. So you would think. I completely, completely agree. And I think that's where we're going to stop it for today. Great place to stop. I love it. Um next week, we're going to pick up on what that is, what it means for moving forward and where we're at. We've got a little bit more information. Some startling things have happened in the scientific community space. There has been a lot. There's been a lot. So we're going to go over that next week. But for now, like, wow.

SPEAKER_01

It's wild. I just I love watching you get so in the zone with this. Like, I know we we love our spooky, ghosty, weird shit. Yeah. But you get so passionate and just so in the zone with this topic specifically. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Why do you think that is? I I just it's been my entire life. Yeah. Kind of. I shouldn't say that. 11. Like I was 11 years old when I kind of discovered like, because I there's something more. There's just something more.

SPEAKER_01

Um and it's not like uh at least the go ghost stuff is like very like earth-centric, very human relationship. Totally human relations moment. Aliens and UAPs and UFOs are just so alien.

SPEAKER_03

And it's like happening now. We don't have to you don't have to wait until we're dead to find out what's happening. Exactly. It's it's a tangible, real life experience. Um I'm kind of getting ahead of myself, but um Jeremy Corbell had this quote. Jeremy Corbell, I'll get into who he is. I'm I love him. He's also very much my type.

SPEAKER_01

Love it.

SPEAKER_03

Um, not to always sexually sexual sexualize these guys. That's what we do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's what we do.

SPEAKER_03

Um he I don't know if it was his quote or if he reported on it, but someone pretty much said, like he said, it's no longer a matter of if you believe, it's if you're paying attention. Yes. And like that is also, I think, why it's such a big deal for me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, because these are these are what what else? Like what else is there?

SPEAKER_01

The the one I heard that was very, very that was um now the conspiracy theorists aren't the conspiracy theorists, the ones who are how I'm gonna say it again, conspiracy theorists are the ones who don't believe now. Yeah. Because there's so much out there.

SPEAKER_03

Right. How can you how can you dispute all of the stuff that is happening? Like Congress is holding hearings. Yeah. Anyway, it's there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, also like this was the perfect episode like for right now, also, because you're you love it, you're so passionate about it. But in a few days' time, it will be our lovely Jacqueline's birthday.

SPEAKER_03

Crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, would was it what episode are we talking about? Mine, we're literally like a few.

SPEAKER_03

We are one year and two weeks apart.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, a year and two weeks.

SPEAKER_03

Year, two weeks apart. Taurus. Tauruses. Um, we are, yeah, that's why we're the same age right now for one more week. That's right. Um, but yes, thank you. But happy birthday.

SPEAKER_01

I love you so much.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. I love you so much.

SPEAKER_01

We did a little, it was great because we did the Beltane, full moon, and a little birthday celebration.

SPEAKER_03

Well, birthday celebration with like a little fire. Oh my gosh, Stephen surprised me with beautiful gifts, delicious pizza, um, all my favorite things, cupcakes. You brought out a whole thing of cupcakes, and a little uh, what do we call it? A cake fountain cake. It was so cool. It was fun. It was great. We had so thank you so much. You just spoiled me so much and made me feel good.

SPEAKER_01

You deserve it. Wow. I love you. I love you. Happy birthday.

unknown

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

Yay, UFOs. Um, all right. Well, we will be back for next week for part two. So please We're not gonna make it a three-parter this time.

SPEAKER_01

It's just a two-parter. It will definitely be two. We don't want to overwhelm you guys again.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like I already have it. All right, so thank you so much for listening and watching Weirdos of Whimsy. We will be back again soon with another episode that guides you through the weird and whimsical journey that is our brains. Be sure to follow us on Instagram and TikTok and YouTube at Weirdos of Whimsypod. Watch that space for updates, release dates, and other delectable treats and morsels, or treats and delectable morsels. I screwed it up. I tried to go off book and I couldn't do it. Say goodbye, Stevie.

SPEAKER_01

Goodbye, everybody. Live long and prosper. Did you?

SPEAKER_03

I don't think I can do that.

SPEAKER_01

You can't do that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I can do it on that one. Like not this one, though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you can kind of do it on that one. I can only I test I tested this all the time. Star Trek love. Love it.

SPEAKER_03

Um and as always, fake gulps, eh?

SPEAKER_04

Well, see you later. You have post a real. A real thing out there.