UFO Disclosure 2026 Part 2

Buckle up, fellow weirdos! Jacklynn and Stevie are back (and a little gravelly-voiced after a wild night with Yungblud) to dive deeper into the rabbit hole of UAP disclosure. In this second installment of our 2026 Alien Update, we’re moving past the "maybe" and getting into the "holy space-moly". 

In this episode, we unpack:

• The Fire Briefings: What did Representative Tim Burchett see that was so extreme it would "set the earth on fire" if the public knew?  
• The High Cost of Truth: We discuss the chilling pattern of whistleblowers and researchers like Matthew James Sullivan and Carl Grummer, who met mysterious ends just before they were set to testify. 
• AARO vs. The OGs: Is the Pentagon’s AARO office a legitimate investigative body or just a "whitewash operation"? We weigh the government's "balloon" theories against the decades of work by legends like George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell. 
• Hollywood’s Hidden Truths: With Steven Spielberg’s Disclosure Day looming, we ask: is fiction the government's favorite way to test our reactions to reality?  

Whether you're wearing a tinfoil hat or just an "existential dread" t-shirt, this episode is a whimsical journey through the most disturbing secrets in the galaxy. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

So, anyways, all this to say that Payne posted a video of him like traveling to a bunch of government offices and was like, wait for, you know, season three or whatever. And it was set to Aliens Exist by Blink 182. And I'm like, and then he said something about like got an email today, and he's like on the phone and he's like all excited. I'm like, are you gonna be talking to Tom DeLong?

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Did it happen? It might have happened.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

I I cannot be the only one who said to talk to Tom because like people know. You know what I mean? People know. People know. But people know. But if it was me, you're welcome. But also, I still am not 100% if that's what's happening. But like, could be come on, man.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

I mean, the hints are there.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

The hints are there. So I'm very excited for season three of Ice Range. That's an excellent reference that you brought it up. Yeah, definitely gonna have to get on that. And you guessed it. Whimsical. Hi, my name is Jaclyn. And I'm Stevie. And guys, right off the hot, we are tired. Tired. Um, our voices are a little gravelly, a little bit here a little bit potentially missing a little bit, a little um congested. We spent the entire night screaming and singing at the top of our lungs at the Young Blood Show in Toronto. It was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Is that my official first ever like rock and roll concert?

SPEAKER_01 1:53

I mean, did you count Stevie Nix?

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Well, I was just gonna ask that. Would Stevie Nicks be considered like a rock and roll concert? I mean, she's it's a different vibe of yeah, totally different vibe.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Like she's rock and roll, but she's like chill, cool, mystical, you know. Yeah. Whereas last night was like, yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Like that is like Ozzy Osborne.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Big time rock star energy, man. Yeah. With like the my cousin Katie. So first of all, before because I am just like spiraling. Yeah, okay. So, okay, we went with my cousin Katie. Shout out, Katie. Shout out, hi Katie and our new very good friend Allison. Allison, shout out Um, Friends of the Pond, uh, and Relations. And and Katie said to me, like, he being Dom, We Love You Dom, who also listens and watches, I'm sure. For sure. Um, he he's like Iggy Pop and Mick Jagger and um uh oh my god, someone else all kind of rolled into one. Ozzie Osborne. Uh Ozzie Osborne, but also um my mom is gonna be so disappointed. Steven Tyler. Oh, Steven Tyler from Aerosmith, like all rolls into one. And he does like the cocky little walk. He does his little like He's so hot. Oh, we were so inappropriate. Allison, Katie, sorry, you got a taste of like what we are, like what we are. What we are we are. It just like there was one point where he was like, if I may.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

Oh, please.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Um, Dom was like, Oh, I have to go back to the United States tomorrow. And we're like, boo, like we were all booing. It was amazing. Sold-out show at the uh Coca-Cola Coliseum in Toronto, which to me is the Rico Coliseum and will always be the Rico Coliseum.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Anyway, so it's packed, packed, packed. And um, he's like, I don't want to go back to the United States. We're like, yeah. And then he like puts his little hands out.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Like a naughty little boy.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

Like a naughty little boy, and he's like, Well, someone uh he didn't say rest me, he's like, Will someone keep me here and take me to their house so I can't leave and handcuff me? And I'm like, like immediately me, please. Um, Katie was like, You were the first one to be like, right here. And I was like, Thanks, Kate. And then he turned around and was like, I won't be a very good guest. And I was like, It was hot. I'm dying. Woo! So I had to sit down after that moment just for a hot second. But it was amazing. He is like truthfully the biggest rock star right now. Like he is just incredible. Oh my god, he didn't all the hits.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Um, what was your favorite song?

SPEAKER_00 4:29

I I really did like low life.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

Oh, because yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

I mean, changes is great. Oh man. But that's not his song.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

No, that's Black Sabbaths.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

That's Black Sabbath.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

And that so quick story. I don't know if you know this. So, of course, he performed it at the um back to beginning tour or sorry, show for Ozzy, right? The farewell tour to Black Sabbath and Ozzy. And then like two weeks later, Ozzy Osbourne died. Oh, yeah. So when that happened, um Youngblood was like, who is also Dom. You know, we're on a first name basis. So like I'll switch between Youngblood and Dom. Um he said, I will now forever do changes in every single one of my shows. Forever and ever Amen. So like that's his little homage. And he started getting emotional and tearing up. So emotional. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Um just seems like a kind soul.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

Yeah, just like a really wonderful person. He came back out at the end of the show and like walked the whole barricade and like hugged people. And he went and I saw footage after, like, he crowd surfed in the crowd while it was like there's no music, and he got scratched to shit. Like he was like, Canada, you've got nails, but I love it. So, like, sorry. Um would have loved to have been a part of that.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

Next time we're going on the pit, we're gonna be in the pit. Look at you. See? Um, so yeah, well done. So much fun. Had a great time with Katie and Allison and you. It was so fun. It was so great.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

Um, that kind of concert, you can't be sitting in the seats. No, everyone around us was sitting most of the time.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

There were a lot of people sitting, which like you know, I sat for a little bit, and like full disclosure, poor Katie has like literally a broken bone in her leg. But she stood up for a lot of it.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Um, but yeah, I and I was the couple beside me, I was getting annoyed.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Oh, Katie. We were laughing so hard. You were so upset.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Which I'm sorry for laughing, but like they weren't talking, they were there was like no vibe.

unknown 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

What was she doing standing over you for so long? What was I?

SPEAKER_01 6:25

I don't know. That was so funny. We were Katie and I were just like, we don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

And her husband's wearing a mask. I'm like, oh god, don't get me sick.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Listen, well, yeah, were they sick? We don't know. If he was wearing a mask, good for him, at least for like, you know, not getting it on us. But um, meanwhile, I'm like, spin on me, sir. Spin on me. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Like, yeah, it's true. Yeah, I would take his oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

In a second. So yeah, so great, wonderful, but sorry if we sound like this and kind of look like this because we are so tired.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

How does it feel being a 38-year-old? Oh my god. Right? And like, do you have the the come down where it's like, uh, it's over?

SPEAKER_00 7:02

Oh, all the time. You know, like that's with not even just concerts though. That's just any sort of large social event.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

I'm like, oh when people leave my house, I'm like, me's over.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But um, hell of a show. If you get a chance to go see Youngblood, do it. Buy the ticket.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Uh is it gonna be a yearly thing now? I feel like it's to be.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Yeah, it has to be. I just it was so good. I in fact, like I looked up the rest of his tour. This was his only Canadian date, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Well, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Yeah. Um, so he's in the States, and then um I think he goes back to the UK for a festival or something. Anyways, uh I told him we're in Ireland.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Oh my god. We don't have time.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

We don't have time.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

But damn.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Um, but also no. Uh he's in Vegas on May 19th, and like part of me was like, What's another I'm not going to America. I know, but like God damn it, I hate this.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

I know, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

Anyway, so yeah, enough about that, but not really, because I could literally talk about it all the time. That's true. Love him so much. We had so much fun. Went to the pop-up, we got a shirt. Yeah. It was so great. Oh, I'm so glad you love him. He's great. He's great. He's fantastic. Okay, let's get into the episode. So, of course, welcome back to Alien Update Part Two.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Welcome back.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

Okay. Um, if you have not yet listened to part one, stop what you're doing right now. Yep. Go back, listen to part one. Dare I say go back and listen to Aliens Exist, parts one, two, and three from 2024. Yeah. Um, if you're new here, we absolutely did a bunch of episodes before the last run of 2026. So um go back and listen to them. But for now, if you are caught up to speed and ready to go, let's get into it. Let's do it. So, because we ended on like a pretty big cliffhanger, let's let's repeat sort of what you said, Steven, at the end of episode one. Okay. Okay. Um, so the fire briefings. This is wild. So in April 2026, shortly after the idiot to the south of us um said he found very interesting articles. Um, I don't know why I do that. So like I mean, you kind of have to. That's crazy. Um, US Representative Tim Burchette, who is a Republican, by the way, we've talked about that.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Um, he's a prominent voice in Congress um as well regarding the uh UAP disclosure. He made startling claims about classified briefings he's received. Um so he stated that the information presented, particularly, particularly in a session held around late March or early April of this year, was quote, so extreme it would have set the earth on fire crazy and caused the country to come on glued if made public.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Those are some statements.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Those are quite some statements. Um let's get into a little bit of the details that we know about. Obviously, we don't know everything because like that would be disclosure, and we don't have that yet. We don't have it yet.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

But what we do have. What we do have is so he alluded to this as being highly disturbing content. Birchick claimed the information would cause widespread panic, demand for answers, and keep Americans awake at night, according to a New York Post article. Um while not providing specific evidence or the nature of these claims, he stated the briefing related to extraterrestrial life and outer space activity. Ooh, outer space activity. Outer space activity. He has previously hinted at, but not confirmed, details regarding alien human hybrid programs. Like, what does that mean? Right? Alien human hybrids.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

My mind goes exactly to like, is there a breeding program? I could see it.

unknown 10:36

What is happening?

SPEAKER_01 10:37

Anyway, so of course, the source of the briefings, um, you know, again, gets a little dicey. Bruchette noted that he has been briefed by just about every alphabet agency, of course, referring to all of the intelligence and defense agencies, the DOD, Arrow, et cetera, et cetera. We're gonna get to all that. We've talked about a lot of it. If you heard me say any, what are they what are they called? Short form, not abbreviations. Thank you. Abbreviations. Um, that's the one I was gonna say anagram. Not at all. An anagram. Um, there's another word though, isn't there? Smart people are screaming at us through their through their car speakers. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

Um yeah, so despite the alarming nature of the content, um, Burchette continues to push for full disclosure, asserting that the public has a right to know and that tax dollars are being used to cover up these programs. That's the other problem. That's the other thing. So, like, American people, you're paying for this to happen. Obviously, it's out of your control, much like it is out of our control of all the crap that we're paying for that we don't want or need or care to have. Truth. Um, but that's what's wild. And I think that's also what's gonna turn a lot of people's opinions on this is like you're paying for this to happen. Yeah. You know what I mean? For sure. Once you bring in money, it kind of doesn't matter what people believe.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

It's true.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Um, but that brings us to concerns for safety. Oh boy, does it. Oh boy, does it. In discussing the cover-up, Burchett referenced the alleged deaths or disappearances of defense scientists, adding in a Reddit forum that he is not suicidal, implying the information is dangerous.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

So that was him kind of saying like I'm not going to kill myself if it ever happens. Yeah. Look into this.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Yeah. Like he he I don't think he can come out and say that verbatim, but like that's essentially what that's saying. Yeah. Like he's not gonna do anything to himself. So if something all of a sudden like if there is a bizarro circumstance, yeah, he didn't do it. So speaking of, let's look at the people who have died after coming forward.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

And there's been a lot, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 12:42

There's been a lot. I've only selected a couple here. Um, because of course there are a lot of, and they even have one listed where it's like there's not a lot of information on it. But like look it up, people. Okay. Um, so kind of the most I think this is the most recent. Uh yeah, it was. Literally. It was today is the third of May. Uh yeah. So it happened like a week or so ago. Um, Matthew James Sullivan. So Matthew James Sullivan was an air for.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Third of May while recording, by the way. Right now. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

We go live on May 6th. Not a lot of time for you to edit this. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

No, this one is in two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Oh, that's right. I'm sorry, not May 6th. This our timelines are you guys know Wibbly wobbly time and wobble. We know that we're not good at this. This is what, May 13th, I guess? 12th, 13th? Anyway. Um sorry, continue. We're coming from the future and the past. Okay. Back to Matthew James Sullivan, R.I.P. Uh, he was an Air Force intelligence officer and prospective congressional witness. Okay, so we've been talking about these whistleblowers coming to uh Congress and having hearings. Yeah. He was scheduled to have one of these. Um, however, he died of an accidental drug overdose very recently.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Which is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Like weeks before scheduled to testify at one of these congressional hearings. Um, so Congressman Eric Burleson expressed concerns regarding potential foul play. That's a big deal. That is. Uh, and noting the suspicious timing of his high level uh and his high level access, of course, right? So, like this congressman has actually come out and been like, guys, don't you think that's a little shady? Yeah, right. He was like a big deal. He had all this clearance and he was gonna come and talk to us, and now he's dead. Yeah. From an accidental drug overstate.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

And the weird thing is a lot of these, not that everybody can have a drug problem. Sure. But a lot of these people are ones you wouldn't really expect to OD on drugs.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

I mean, especially if now you could, I was just gonna say, especially if something as important as this is happening. However, you could argue with addiction, the stress could drive.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

But I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

Like what are the chances?

SPEAKER_01 14:52

What are the chances? I don't want to wear my tinfoil hat, but I'm wearing my tinfoil. We should have worn too much.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

Oh my god, we should have.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

Why do we think of things after? Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Yeah, that would have been maybe too weird.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Really neat. Is there such a thing? That's us.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

That's us. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

So so R.I.P. Matthew James.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Uh next we have Carl Grilmer, a decorated astrophysicist working on exoplanet research. Wow. Uh Carl Grilmer was killed on his porch in 2026. Mentioned in reports, speculating on whistleblower dangers. Killed on his porch. Killed on his porch. Just like that's the only information we need.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

I mean, so again, like I'm just I'm I'm leery on putting in details where I find multiple different pieces of information.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

Oh, okay. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

So like I yeah, we'll just leave it at that. We'll leave it at that. We'll just leave it at that. He was killed on his porch. Um bizarre.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Bizarre. Ooh, okay. Bizarre. Bizarre. Uh next we have Jason Thomas. He was a researcher who disappeared in December 2025 and was found dead in March 2027.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Again, like this is research, like these are scientists who are actively working on stuff. And there are a lot. There are a lot of people. This is just four because of time. But like there are many people who have been disappearing or showing up dead.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Um, finally, for today's episode, an unnamed DOE official. So Lou Elizondo, who I've spoken about, I think, in the last, like the first kind of round of Aliens Exists. One, two, and three. Um, Lou Elizondo is a disclosure activist, author, um, lifelong military man who spent essentially like his final military year years as um the senior leader of the um ATIP program, which is the advanced aerospace threat identification program.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Okay. So, like, again, people designed like this has been designed to like protect and figure out threats from the air. Um so he quit that to become this activist to be like, I don't like what I'm learning and the public needs to know.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Which is crazy. Yeah. Because I'm sure he was making a lot of money doing what he was doing.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

Oh, baby. So um he came forward and reported a department of energy, sorry, which is that's what the DOE stands for. Again, lots of alphabet here. He reported that a dip uh DOE whistleblower died on their sofa in their home.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

That's weird.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Shortly before they were scheduled to again speak to Congress.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Just died on their sofa.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

What is happening? Yeah. What is happening? I just I don't understand. So um, and these are people like I gotta tell you, I am concerned for a lot of my favorite activists and whistleblowers. Yeah. Like David Rush, National Treasurer, protect him at all costs, Jeremy Corbell, George Knapp, Lou Elizondo. Also, Lou Elizondo, I'm wearing my Tom is right shirt. Um, he worked very closely with Tom DeLong to like bring all of this to light back in 2017 when they again, it goes farther than that, it goes way farther than that, but that's kind of when everything popped off. Yeah. And um Tom was right. Tom was right. So check it out. Like, yeah, he's on a team with a lot of um people that you might now uh recognize from listening to us. That you can be like, hey, I know them. Anyways, um okay, let's move to Arrow, shall we?

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Arrow. So Arrow's scientific stance.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Yes, this is this is their stance.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Uh so the Pentagon's all domain anomaly. Yep. Okay, I got this. I can do it. No problem. The Pentagon's all domain anomaly resolution office, A-A-R-O. Arrow. Arrow continues to be the skeptical arm of the investigation.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Right. That's their whole purpose, is to do it.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

You do need a little skeptical skeptics.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

We talk about controlled environments, we talk about, you know, sure.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

Absolutely. But but uh so in their 2026 reports, Arrow has maintained a high confidence level that the majority of sightings are unremarkable physical objects. I mean, specifically balloons, drones, and sensor clutter.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

Why are you spending all this money on this then?

SPEAKER_00 19:29

Like, oh, it's a balloon.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Like also, why are people being killed if it's a balloon?

SPEAKER_00 19:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Also, why you know I I could go on and on.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

It's true.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

I love it. I love how excited you get about this. Uh, we also have the no evidence baseline. Yeah. Uh so Arrow officially states they have found no evidence that any UAP sightings represent extraterrestrial technology, though they admit many cases remain unresolved due to insufficient data.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

I just, you know, I just have to explain. I just like stared into the camera to be like, do you believe this? Yeah. Like, are you kidding me? Yeah. There are videos that exist that are from the mill number one, the again, I hate to keep making it about Tom, but I love making it about Tom. The 2017 footage that he was responsible for essentially, like in the New York Times, which was like the anyways, the TikTok video. Oh, yes, yes, it's um they said, okay, yeah, we don't know what this is. They said that.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

They said it.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

And now so like they're going around and around and around, and it's just garbage.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Garbage. Garbage mom. It's just garbage.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Anyways, okay. So investigative journalist George Knapp, who I spoke about before. We love George Knapp, um, has been a vocal critic of the Pentagon's all-domain. Sorry, I'm just gonna call it Arrow now that you know what it is. Arrow uh of the Pentagon's uh Arrow team, frequently characterizing the office as a tool for obstruction, misinformation, and the continuation of long-term government cover-ups regarding UAPs. So, little quick kind of note about George Knapp. He's um been investigating UFOs for the over three decades. Like he's been doing this for 30 years and has publicly expressed um a lot of negative views on Arrow, which I'll get to in just a second. I feel like I need to talk a little bit more about George Knapp. Okay. He, I don't want to say fell into this. Um, look up his story. It's really interesting. He was working for a television network in Vegas. Okay. And um, a story came across like essentially his um manager's desk, and his manager was like, Do you want to do this? And he's like, sure. And we'll get to that of who that was in a second. Um, but like ever since that happened in the 80s, it's just like it's it's consumed him. And he's an incredible investigator. Journalist. He had his own show. Like, look it up, people. George Knapp is like, in my mind, one of the OGs of this. Um, okay, so let's get back to his views on Arrow. Um, he has expressed the following that a whitewash operation is happening. Okay. Um, Knapp has dismissed Arrow's reports and public statements as a whitewash and fake news obstructionist organization. That's like that's pretty that's pretty damning.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

Um he has provided a lot of critic uh criticism on the leadership as well. He has strongly criticized um the particularly the former director, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, labeling labeling him a thin-skinned, diehard UFO skeptic rather than an impartial investigator, which is what they're supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

I mean sorry, fair.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

Like if you're gonna create this team, arrow, yeah, to um be sort of the balance of here's everything, here's all this evidence, you have to be open, you still have to be open-minded. It's just like scientists who um I shouldn't say scientists, because if you're a true scientist, you will never do this. I'm gonna say people. It's just like people who are like, I already know my answer. Now I'm gonna work to show my answer. That is not science.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Fair.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Like, do we not remember like hypothesis observation? Like, come on, people, you you you don't fit your work to give the outcome that you already want it to be.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Because also, wasn't there a thing where like uh you can what what am I trying to say? So if you have the answer already, you can pretty much make any of your findings fit.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

If you're only trying to find that yeah, yeah, you're blinded by the how much you want your answer to be correct. Yes. Like if if anything, you should think differently and be like, how can I not get here? You know what I mean? Again, like proper scientists, back me up here. You you scientists out there listening, yeah, because I'm sure a lot of them do. Um, you start with a hypothesis and you work until you find out the outcome.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

You know, your conclusion based on your research, your efforts, what the evidence is showing you. Exactly. I digress.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Um I love watching you in this element. It makes me happy.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Let's get back to George Knapp's kind of thoughts about Arrow, which I'm sure we'll get fired up about.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

But it's true. Uh so Knapp contends that Arrow has actively ignored or belittled testimonies from credible whistleblowers and witnesses, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

Again.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Crazy. Um, he has highlighted that while Arrow claims to have found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial or off-world technologies, his own investigations and those of colleagues like Jeremy Corbell. Love Jeremy. Jeremy, uh, have shown Arrow ignored eviden evidence of anomalous objects with advanced capabilities, such as the 2024 orb encounter near Yemen.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yeah, and like uh pick anything. Yeah. There's the jellyfish, there's the jellyfish. Oh, yeah. It's wild. Oh. I'll see if I can find it and we can post it. But there's like literally um like a sky jellyfish? Yes. Sky whales, sky jellyfish? It is gliding effortlessly over. And like tons of people saw this thing.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Wait, is this the thing? You might not know this. Have you ever watched Star Wars?

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Is it the thing that kind of looks like I've never watched Star Wars?

SPEAKER_00 25:39

I don't know. I I can never remember.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

You might not know this, Jacqueline.

unknown 25:43

Huh?

SPEAKER_00 25:43

Keep going, I'm sorry. Um, the the weird little like drone thingy from Star Wars that looks like the the probe. So Is it that kind of thing?

SPEAKER_01 25:51

It it it it literally looks exactly like a jellyfish. I'm sure I've seen it, but I'm I cannot picture it. I'll I'll find it and we'll we'll do a screenshot or something because like it's so creepy. Cool. Okay. Um so of course you watched Star Wars. Of course. Jesus Christ. That's just was that was okay. I forgive you. It was a late night. It was a link we had a lot of things happening in our brains. Yeah. Um so George Knapp believes ultimately that Arrow's first report was inaccurate and quote, riddled with factual errors and served to just reinforce rather than resolve suspicions of a cover-up. So like he just thinks that they're completely misleading the public to try and keep everyone calm and you know, like organized and keep, you know what I mean? Like that's ultimately what we think is happening here. Um so NAP, along with Jeremy Corbell, have um has used their platform to present evidence that they claim Arrow knowingly ignored. Um they argue that Arrow's scientific analysis were uh were designed, sorry, analyses were designed to demystify or deny rather than investigate objectively. There you go. I'll get to more about them in a second. Actually, I'm gonna talk about it now because we're talking about it. Go for it. So they have an incredible podcast called Weaponized. Okay. Find it. Find it. It's amazing. I think they just released that they're having or will have David Grush back on. Um, but if you are not sure where to start with all of this, I highly recommend Weaponized by George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell. Um, their stories are awesome. I have the biggest crush on Jeremy Corbell. He's just like so cool and cute and fun and smart and dedicated. And uh yeah, highly recommend Weaponized.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

Love.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yeah, there we go. Really good, really good.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

I have never heard of that one, so I'll need to check that one out.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

So good.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

Really the only UFO pod. I'm not like I know I have a podcast, but I don't listen to a lot of podcasts. Fair enough. Um, but I did listen to um High Strange.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. High Strange. So Teen Lindsay. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

So great podcast. I haven't listened. There's a season two, right?

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Yes, I can't believe you haven't listened to.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

I haven't listened to it yet. But I will. I will.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Um so not to burst your bubble. So there's only six episodes of season two for Pain Lindsay's High Strange. That's right. However, um, it has been announced that they are already, it's it's gonna be in less than a month. We're a month away from season three of High Strange. Oh, wow. They've they've already been like, you know what, there's so much going on. And can I tell you something very exciting?

SPEAKER_00 28:22

Yes. Go for it.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

I don't know. So back when episodes one, two, and three came out for the first season of High Strange, he like put out to the community, the community. The community the UFO kind of peeps. He he asked on his Instagram, like, who should I be talking to? Oh, yeah. Because like in the early days, he was like, he even says in the first episode of High Strange, like, I don't want to be the UFO guy. Like, I don't really know anything about this. Oh, he kind of on his Instagram was like, Who should I go and talk to? So I was immediately like, bada da. Um one of those people was Tom DeLong. I was like, You ha like, yes, these are people.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

I thought you were just pointing to yourself. Myself me.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Contact me, Payne. Um I mean, that'd be wild, but no.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Could you imagine?

SPEAKER_01 29:07

I would pass away. I mean we both have podcasts. Come on the pod, Payne. Um no, Tom DeLong. I I set a bunch of people who are like very much in you know, entrenched in obviously the UFO community and have been for a long time. But then I was like, man, it sound you have to talk to Tom DeLong. I mean you have to talk to Tom DeLong. Like he I can't even get into it. It's just it's wild. Like, look at that people. Everyone laughed at him, everyone laughed at him.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

And now look.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Now look at him. Um, so, anyways, all this to say that Payne posted a video of him like traveling to a bunch of government offices and was like, wait for you know, season three or whatever. And it was set to Aliens Exist by Blink 182. And I'm like, and then he said something about like got an email today, and he's like on the phone and he's like all excited. I'm like, are you gonna be talking to Tom DeLong?

SPEAKER_00 30:02

Did it happen? It might have happened.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

I I cannot be the only one who said to talk to Tom because like people know, you know what I mean? People know people know, but if it was me, you're welcome. Um, but also I still am not 100% if that's what's happening, but like come on, man.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

I mean, the the the hints are there.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

The hints are there. So I'm very excited for season three of Ice Range. That's an excellent reference that you brought it up. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

I'm gonna have to get on that.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

And sorry, again, I'm blowing it completely. I love it. I just so remember I told you in our episodes of Aliens Exist One, Two, and Three. I believe I talked about the very first first book I ever purchased when I was like 11 years old.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

Yes, isn't it like a it's a tome? It's a big if it's the one I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

So Whitley Schreiber, so yeah, so he's done a lot and they're big.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

Whitley Schreiber is Streiber, Schreiber, anyway, I call him Schreiber. He was the author of the very first book I got. And it was about implants and being abducted. Implants. Yeah. That's a whole that's a whole thing we have to go through. He is on season two of High Strange, and he's one of the guys that I included in my list as well.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Love.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

So, like I'm really happy that he's connecting with people. That is, it is so not my doing. Again, me and 50,000 other people probably said you should probably go speak to Whitley Schreiber. But um, it's cool, man. You gotta you gotta listen to it, Steven.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

I will listen to it.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

It's a wild story for Whitley. It's a wild story.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

I'm excited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Check it out. Yeah, I need to bump that up because right now I'm just going through um Magnus archives, but which is super fun. So fun. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

But um, you gotta check it out. I gotta check it out. Anyways.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Okay. So over to you for our last little bit. Okay, so I am excited for this.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Me too.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

So a massive cultural event is looming that is blurring the lines between fiction and reality. Can you guess what it is? Can you guess? So Steven Spielberg's disclosure day. Oh man, I can't. I'm pumped. I can't wait. We have to go together.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Oh, like please. Yeah. I'm pumped. Please. I don't know when it's gonna happen because you're booked and busy all the time. I know.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

It might have to be like, we'll figure out. You have a day off.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

You come up to my house and that evening after work, we'll go and see it.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

Sold. Awesome. Um, so it's set for release in June 2026, which is is that six months?

SPEAKER_01 32:28

We are a month away.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

We're a month away. Yeah. Um, so this film starring Emily Blunt Love Her. Del World's Prada. I can't wait to see it. Oh, yeah. It's out.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Oh yeah. God.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Um, it's being marketed not just as a movie, but as a project that answers questions about the phenomenon. Yeah, man.

unknown 32:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Given Spielberg's history with the topic, researchers are watching closely to see if the film reflects any insider information recently declassified.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Yeah. So did you ever see Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Yes. It's been a minute. Gotta rewatch it. I gotta rewatch it.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Because there's there's a theory. I mean, a theory. People are like, I wonder if this is gonna be like considered like a either a prequel or a sequel.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Well, everything is about disclosure currently. And then this movie's coming out called Disclosure Day, which is exactly why we're talking about it, baby. Like it's it's gonna be a thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

You know what? There are a lot of- It's gotta be. I don't know, man. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

It is also a movie.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

I've been on this train a long time. Like, there are people who are like, we're never gonna know. I yeah. We're never gonna know. Because of statements that uh Bruchette made, or Burkett, we've been calling him different names. I don't care. That guy, the Republican car uh Republican of Tennessee. Yeah, like the fact that he was like, this will make our country unglue. This will make the world unglue. Like, that's why so many people think that we won't ever know.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

But then is this how they get the information out? Is it marketing as fiction?

SPEAKER_01 33:53

Tell you, Steven, that is the next point that I have to talk to you about. There we go. So, congratulations for thinking about it. Um I think we also might have brought this up the first time we talked about it too. Probably, but it's worth repeating. There, so again, Tom DeLong. Guys, I'm not sorry. He's a very smart individual who knows a lot about this. He wrote a series of books and has done some movies in the past, but when he was, you know, promoting it and obviously just talking all about his work that he's done, he has said many times, like, pay attention to movies, man. Yeah, because there are certain things in movies that are actually happening, and that is their way of getting it out to the public.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

They make it palatable to the public. Correct.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Correct. And it's like testing it out to see how people re would react. Yeah. Right. So, for example, one of the movies that um Tom DeLong did was called Monsters of California.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

And he absolutely has said that like there are legit scenes in that movie that he has firsthand knowledge of.

SPEAKER_00 35:01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

And like it's crazy. It's about a group of friends who like accidentally somehow get in um matched into like supernatural kind of findings and creepy things and like there's aliens in Bookfoot and Bubba. What's it called? Monsters of California. You gotta watch it. It's so cute. When did it come out? Last year.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

I gotta watch it. Remind me. I will, I'll remind you. There's it's so it's I just love it. Cute. Um, I also was I in San Diego after they filmed it. I don't remember. Anyways, um, he has said that, and he's like not the only one. So, like peep Spielberg, people think that he knows shit, man. I could see it. Yeah. Like people have also been like, where did he get this information for Star Wars? Where he gets like, yeah, sure, imagination is a thing, but also like, listen. Um we talked about weaponized. Yeah. Um, one last thing about Jer Jeremy Corbell as well. He has a new documentary coming out too. It's called Sleeping Dog. Okay. That's gonna be, I think, a mind blower too. Okay, that's gonna be a big like, what the hell? Yeah. Um, that'll be great. But Steven, what happened on Friday night that you got a taste of?

SPEAKER_00 36:12

Well, we rented for your birthday because you were so excited.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

So excited.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

We watched uh the documentary S4.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Yeah, the Bob Lazar story S4.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

Interesting. Right? I had not heard about a lot of that.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Oh my god. So great. And thank you for renting it for me for my birthday. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

I've never heard that.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Um what were your thoughts? Tell me about it.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

It was very cool. I mean, I'm pretty sure there was a lot of AI content with yeah, especially that one guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

But that one guy was created based on his memory of like based on his memory. So so the his um boss.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

The AI guy.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Dennis.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Yeah. Good for you.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

He so they created him out of AI because like they they asked Bob Lazar what did he look like. So he described it and they created that character based on his own.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Which is cool. I love that it's a thing, but you know all the AI stuff.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

We don't we are anti-AI in in movies and music and yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:08

But it is it is a cool thing. It's kind of like I mean it's like police recreation um sketches. Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

That's a great point. That's a great point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

But still, but yeah, um, it was so interesting. And I really liked when they showed the uh different flying saucers, the crafts, um, the jello mold. You have to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

You have to watch it. If you don't know who Bob Lazar is, man, again.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Cute nerd.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

Super cute nerd. Cute nerd. I wish Evan Peters played him. Right? That would have been good. That would have been good. Anyway, um, Bob Lazar's story is wild. So I'm I I kind of referenced this earlier. Like, he found George Knapp to be like, I'm reverse engineering some wild things. Yeah. And I don't think this should be a secret. Yeah. And that's kind of how like George Knapp got involved in all this. Like he, you gotta check it out, people.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

I meant to look for the movie. Okay, so y'all might know out there. So there's a movie, I think it's from the 80s. I'm gonna google it. Is he? Yep, go ahead. Okay. It's a movie from the 80s, uh, I think the 80s, and it's about, I wanna say, like, it's a young kid who stumbles across an a uh across an alien craft, and the kid is sitting in the chair, and then I think the um, like it's very just silver, it's all formed into one kind of thing, and then the craft starts like either communicating or talking to him.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Flight of the Navigator?

SPEAKER_00 38:36

Flight of the Navigator. Okay. I think that's it. And the ship in uh the documentary reminded me so much because the one screw the wall in front of him kind of goes clear so he can see out, and he's like hooked into the ship and he's flying around.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Um I think flight of the navigator.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

100%. No, this is it. Like, let me show my screen.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

That's the one. That's the one. It just something about it reminded me.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Oh my god, I totally have seen this. Yeah. Okay, that vision of the stairs just reappearing. Yes. Right? Isn't that the kid who plays the brother in E.T., the older brother? Kind of looks like I like look at the eye. Oh my god, you've unlocked a core memory. I want to remember. You've unlocked a core memory. That is absolutely a movie I have seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I completely remember that.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

As we were watching this, that's all I can do.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Aim goes in the future. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great, great, great, great reference. Great reference. Anyways, okay. Um, yeah, S4. Check it out.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

S4, great.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

Really, really great. Especially if you know nothing about Bob Lazar. Um which I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

That was all pretty much new information for me.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that was a lot. That was a lot. Hope you can digest it. Um I said this to Steven. Like, I know nothing about this. All kidding aside, like, I know some things. You know a lot. I do there's so much. There's so much to learn and digest and retain and dive into. As much as I quote unquote know, I know nothing. There's so much more to learn, experience, and find out. Um, if you are genuinely interested, like just start Googling, go to your library, start reading. If you don't know where to start, start with George Knapp, start with Jerem Jeremy Corbell, um, start with Bob Lazar. There are so many, so many people who have been doing this for literally decades. Dare I say, go back and just start reading about Roswell and be like, this is interesting. So um, we will for sure talk about aliens, I'm sure, again.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

I'm sure there's gonna be some some stuff coming out.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

There's absolutely going to be. Um, and we will definitely give you a review of disclosure day when we see it together. I can't wait. Um, but for now, let's call it a day. Also, like, do you love matching our shorts?

SPEAKER_00 41:07

E is for existential dress.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

Right? Brought all my alien theme shirts down.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

Jacqueline and I have just discovered that uh I can now wear her clothes.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

But I can't wear hairs.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

So you probably could. We haven't tried it out yet.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

I'm gonna just gonna not. Thank you for thinking that. I appreciate you thinking that I could wear something that you own.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

You could.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

I appreciate it. Uh okay, well, so thank you so much for listening and watching Weirdos of Whimsy. We will be back again soon with another episode that guides you through the weird and whimsical journey that is our brains. Be sure to follow us on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. You two at Weirdos of Whimsy Pod. Uh watch that space for updates, release dates, and other treats and delectable morsels. Say goodbye, Stevie.

SPEAKER_00 41:57

Goodbye, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

And as always, big gulps, eh? Well, see you later.