Are You an Indigo Child? (Or Do You Just Have ADHD?)

Before diving into the cosmic deep end, the dynamic duo catches you up on life updates. Stevie’s gay lisp is officially back and better than ever after wrapping up his Invisalign journey. 

Then, it’s time to activate your third eye chakra. This week, the Weirdos explore the fascinating phenomenon of Indigo Children. The story starts in the 1970s with Nancy Ann Tappy, a parapsychologist with synesthesia, a mind-bending neurological condition where senses involuntarily collide (like tasting words or seeing music as colours). Tappy began noticing a new generation of children possessing distinct indigo-coloured auras, high intuition, and a fierce resistance to traditional authority. 

Jacklynn and Stevie break down Tappy’s four archetypes, the psychic traits associated with Indigos, like telepathic spirit communication and eerie past-life memories, and contrast them with healthy scientific skepticism, developmental psychology, the Barnum effect, and the overlap with ADHD and Autism. 

In this episode, you’ll also hear about:

• 🌟 Pop icons Billie Eilish and Phineas navigating life with synesthesia. 
• 🛸 Boris Kiprianovich, the famous Russian "Boy from Mars" who claimed a past life on the red planet. 
• 🔬 A wild tangent about CERN shutting down the Large Hadron Collider and whether dimensional pockets are making the world feel a little lighter. 
• ✨ Stevie and Jaclyn’s personal connection to Indigos, auras, big-eyed babies, and their shout-outs to the many wonderful Brads and Debs in their lives. 

Are you an Indigo child? Do you see auras? Or are we all just a little bit whimsical? Tune in, find out. 

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Have a bone-chilling story of your own? We want to hear it! Send your scary encounters to weirdosofwhimsy@gmail.com or DM us. Your story might just make it onto a future episode! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

But who's Tappy? That's Nancy Ann.

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Did we did we say that up ahead?

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Yeah.

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You completely missed that.

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Nancy Ann Tappy.

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Nancy. Oh.

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That's her name.

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Bear. Gotcha. Yeah.

unknown 0:12

Okay.

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I was like, who is it? Poor Nancy Tappy. Poor Nancy is so forgettable. In the sentence that we are speaking about her scene, he's like, listen, bitch, you bitch. You don't impress me much. You may be Brad Pitt. I'm not seeing her last name in here at all.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Maybe you said it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Oh, I said it. That's why I forgot. I don't remember any of it. Welcome to Weird as a Whimsy, a podcast where we will be discussing all things weird and You guessed it.

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Whimsica. Hi, my name is Jaclyn.

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And I'm Stevie.

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And welcome back to another fun-filled episode. I don't know. I kind of forgot what I was doing for a second. Which is funny, because like how could we forget?

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Well, we haven't recorded in a minute.

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That is a great point.

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We had the week off.

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Yes, for Canada Day.

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And this is our first time back, yeah.

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Yeah, there was Liminal Spaces last week. Go back, listen to Liminal Spaces. For you guys, you've had a week already. Yeah, but we recorded that back in May.

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Yeah.

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Just to give you a glimpse behind how we're going to be able to do that. We're breaking the fourth wall. We're talking about it. Exactly, right? Um, but it is July. We hope you're having a wonderful summer.

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Yay. We're like the the heat is real.

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The heat is heating.

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The heat is heating. We are in our see-through, see-through titty talks. Hope you enjoyed. It's hot.

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It's hot out, guys. It's hot in the studio. We're going to our annual pool party with our dear friends Caitlin Remote. Shout out. We love you. So excited. What else is new with you, Steven?

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Oh my God. So I don't know if you guys can hear my gay lisp is back and better than ever. Because I no longer have, well, okay. I no longer am wearing Invisalign at the moment. Right. However, I'm I have these like holding trays I'm still supposed to wear until like the end of August. Um but basically I'm done with that shit.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

Yeah. And like you look great, amazing. The straightest thing about years your teeth.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Hey, that was good. Thank you.

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It was right there. Um, but they look great.

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Thanks.

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So like I have comments on it and stuff already. Yeah. Like Invisalign, if you truthfully want to reach out, I know we kind of shit on you in the beginning, but like look the result.

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It's worth it. It's worth it. It's great. I just can't.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

The time actually went maybe not for you, but for me, the time flew of like how you started.

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It was so long. You went through it, but you didn't. But it was shorter than most people.

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Yeah, thank goodness.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You know what? I had braces and I only had braces for nine months. And people are like, I hate you.

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Yeah.

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Because I know people who've had it for two years, three years, four years.

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Mine was eight months, yeah.

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Yeah, right. So, I mean, I also got jaw surgery.

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I mean, yeah.

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But that's neither here nor there. Um, that's a story for another day.

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But I gotta say, it's very weird. Like just the feel of my mouth now, like since my teeth are in completely different positions. Like eating.

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Yeah.

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Even when I look at myself like smiling at a picture, like I didn't realize how different.

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Very different. Yeah, completely different. Well, it looks great. Thanks. Um, should we before we dive into the topic, should we also talk about what we did on Thursday night? We might as well talk about it now. Because it was like literally two nights ago. Two nights ago. At the time of recording, anyway. Um How about her? So Steven and I went and did a little ghost hunting with a very intimate group um in downtown Toronto at the Elgin and Winters Theaters.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

It was first of all, that I don't think I had ever been in those theaters. Stunning. Stunning. Stunning.

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Stunning. And did I say it right? Is it Winter Garden?

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It's Winter Garden. Elgin and Winter Garden Theaters.

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It was amazing. It's like the only stacked theater in apparently all the world.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Yeah. So if you don't know what that is, literally, it's one like a massive regular size theater, like like what, Mervish and that kind of thing. Yeah. And then on top, literally, on top of that one, is another. It's slightly smaller, but still massive. Huge and gorgeous. So it's like two theaters stacked on top of each other.

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Yeah, it was a breathtaking.

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Breathtaking.

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Just being in that because it was built in 1913.

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Yeah.

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Um, just being in that space, those spaces were incredible. And it was like alone in the dark. So it was 12 of us.

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Yeah. So it's it's a um pe people who do it in Toronto. Alone in the Dark, I think, is the Alone in the Dark. The name of the Yep. Give it a Google.

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If you go to the Elgin and Winter Theaters website, it's all over it. We highly recommend it. Jack was our incredible tour guide. Jack was amazing. We love it. They killed it, they crushed it. Um, and Kaylee was our other kind of first host who was there. And just both wonderful people. Yeah. We had a great time. There was some things that happened. Should we get into it or should we get into the episode? What do you think? Should we save it? Tune in for listener episodes story. And we'll share you.

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We'll share with you. Segunties.

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Might have heard that. Um, yeah, we'll share more stories about that. So in two weeks' time, come back and listen to our listener episodes. Which, by the way, we're doing a listener episode. We are. So we have some super creepy stories that we have sent in. So we've got a lovely little episode for you. So um come back in two weeks and listen to our tales of the ghost hunting trip too. Yeah. Well, should we get into it? Let's do it. All right. So today we're talking about indigo children. And some of you may be thinking, hey, I like the color indigo. I was a child. Does that make me an indigo child? The answer is yeah, probably. There you go. Just kidding. Easy. No, uh, seriously, this term is actually real. Look it up. Um, and we are going to dive into what it is, what it means, and maybe you can let us know if perhaps by the end of this you think you might have been one.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Oh, there you go. So let's go all the way back to 1970s. Honestly, I would love the 70s, baby. Uh, to Nancy Ann Tappy, who, at the time, was an American parapsychologist who also experienced it.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

You got it so good before.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Uh synesthesia.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

You nailed it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

What exactly is synesthesia? It's a neurological condition where one of your senses automatically triggers another, completely involuntarily. So, for example, hearing music and seeing it as colors.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

Yeah. So it can actually enhance cognitive abilities such as memory, creativity. Um, and it's easier to connect connect. It's easier to make connections between concepts. Um What are these people called? Uh uh synesthete.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

A synesthetic. A synesthete. That's a fun word. Isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 7:15

It's also much easier to say without a bass line.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Congratulations! Um, so the long version of that is essentially someone who reports uh a lifelong history of this condition. So like someone who's experienced this and who has this condition is a synesthete. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

It's weirdly reminding me of this is way different, but a centibyte or a cenobite. Voice. Um Hellraiser. A c a centibyte.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

Can I tell you I've never seen Hellraiser in its entirety?

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Oof.

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So good. As a young person. Oh, that's why I turned it off. I turned it off. I couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Fair.

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I made like 15 minutes in of the like original first one.

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Yeah.

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I was like, nope, can't do it.

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Yeah.

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Um it reminds me of Cinnabon, which I really want. Yeah, that works too. No Cinnabon on the card. Damn it.

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We should have got Cinnabon.

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I'm hoping there's you can see like the transformation. Stay tuned, party people.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

You're gorgeous.

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Stunning. Thank you. Also, we're tan. Look how tan we are. We should have been worn white.

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Oh, we should have.

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Anyway. Back to the episode.

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Here are some signs to look for if you think you might have this. With each of these, the theme is consistent. So if you're constantly experiencing the following, let us know. Letters or numbers consistently appearing in specific colors. So, example, the letter A is always red.

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Isn't that fascinating?

SPEAKER_01 8:45

So wait.

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Anytime you see the letter A, Anytime you think of the letter or talk about like you know how you're like A, B, C, you know, say the alphabet or whatever? A flash of red or whatever. Like this is just an example. People who have this condition will associate that specific letter with a specific color.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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That's fun.

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Yeah. Wild.

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Ugh, your world would be so colorful. Yeah. Yeah. Hearing sounds or music and involuntarily seeing colors or shapes.

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So same thing. Like association with shapes and colors or music.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

That one would be so cool and whimsical and fun and magical. Yeah. Just like every time you hear music, you're just like mind's eye is just like undulating with different colors. Undulating. Great word. Thanks.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

Yeah. No, what a fascinating condition to have. Yeah.

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Uh hearing or reading certain words that cause you to taste specific flavors.

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This one could be dangerous.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

That could be dangerous.

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Because what if you so shit. But what if when you say shit, it's like a lemon popsicle.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Oh, that would be weird. That'd be weird. And lemon popsicle is shit.

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Shit.

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So visualizing times like days of the week or months as maps or physical landscapes around you.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Can I can I tell you? I I kind of do this, but not as specific. So when I think of the day of the week, I literally see it on a calendar.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

I mean like Sunday to Saturday as it would like this is a box, this is a box, this is a box.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

That's fair. I think that one makes more sense because that's how we view it so often in like Google Calendars, on a calendar, work-related shit.

SPEAKER_03 10:30

100%. So like I I feel like that's pretty normal, but I do that. Like I can't think of the day of the week without imagination. It's like a long, skinny box for me. That's fine. And same thing with the year. So do you ever think about like January goes back up to the top? Oh, yeah. When I talk about like the year of January, I'm at the top. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:46

That's so weird. It's so weird.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

I mean, it used to be obviously school related. September was the beginning of the year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Yeah, so true. So true. Um, I don't think I put it in here. I'm just doing a quick search. Uh sorry, you have one more thing to say.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Okay.

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And then I'll say what I was about to say.

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Honestly, I forgot I did. So thank you for running. So apparently, three to five percent of the world's population has some form of synesthesia. And women are more likely to experience this than men.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

There you go. So I don't know if it's in here because I can't find it, but if we stumble upon it as we're reading, well, hey, there we go. I'm gonna say it now because it's pertinent. You know who has this? Who? Billy Eilish and her brother Phineas.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Oh, her brother's name is Phineas. That's so fun.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Yeah. Yeah. Billie Eilish and Phineas have talked at length about how when they're creating music, yeah, they see images and colors and they associate certain words with like colors and tastes and sounds. That's cool. Isn't it? That's cool. So like it gives you when I learn that, and then you listen to a Billie Eilish song, you're like, man, what are they seeing when they're putting this together?

SPEAKER_02 11:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

You should it check it out. There's like a couple of great quotes from her talking about it. I love that. Yeah, it's really interesting. One thing, so do you have like certain words that kind of do this? So I want to be clear, I don't have this at all. But there are certain words that I do either associate with something, or I I don't know, like the word queen is like tastes good saying it. I don't know how to describe it. Like I think I think of like an I I mean queen and cream. So like I think ice cream, it's like a creamy, crystallized taste in my mouth. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

That's cool.

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Whatever that means.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Maybe you are slight indigo child.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

Maybe. Um, but the other thing that happens, so like my dog, when I hear a really so Moose, his his bark, you heard him bark, when he barks, I see and like mahogany. Isn't that weird?

SPEAKER_01 12:51

So you're literally but it's not all the time.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

It's just with like certain like those deep rich tones, I see like the color of mahogany or like like um like a silky. As if someone's like pouring it's like somebody's pouring coffee, and I see that like arc of like whoa that color. But that's those two are kind of like the biggest examples of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Um I always got it where I it's maybe a little different, but especially when I was a kid when I would read constantly in the car, anytime there was music on, I would associate like if I ever heard that song again, I would associate it with that book or vice versa. Aw, see, and it was just like, you know, in my mind's eye, I would picture like that music and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

So I don't know if that's anything similar.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

Maybe we're all a little indigo. A little indigo. Back to Nancy Ann, which by the way is like I know she wasn't born, wasn't isn't that just like a perfect 70s, 80s name. 100%. Nancy Ann. She was an adult in the 70s, but regardless, I digress. Yeah. Um, Nancy Ann. So Nancy, being a synesthete, um, could taste shapes and associated individuals with different colors or could see the person's aura. Okay. So she worked as a teacher and a counselor, interacting heavily with children she described as having learning disabilities or behavioral issues. Um, and in the mid-60s, she began observing a new generation of children that exhibited deep indigo-colored auras. I guess this wasn't really happening before.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Okay, I have a dumb question.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

Lay it on me.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

I am completely blanking on what color indigo is. Is it like a blue?

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Oh, that's a great question. Because maybe people don't know.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

I know it, but I'm like, I'm I cannot picture it right now.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Yeah, indigo is like a purpley blue. It's not quite purple, it's not quite blue. It's certainly not cerulean.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

Certainly not.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Um, but it's definitely like a darker, bluey purple.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Okay, okay. Right?

SPEAKER_03 14:51

Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Great question, Steven. Thank you very much for clarifying that for all of the um wonderful party people. Yes. Um, okay, so after she categorized she started to categorize these indigo children into four distinct archetypes. Um, humanists, artists, conceptualists, and catalysts.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Okay.

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According to her, these children possess specialty traits such as advanced intuition, high intelligence intelligence. How ironic that I couldn't say that. High intelligence and resistance to traditional authority.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Ooh, I mean, love that.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

Yeah. So Tappy detailed her life color systems and theories in her foundational 1986 book, Understanding Your Life Through Color.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

There you go. Haven't purchased it, but who's Tappy?

SPEAKER_03 15:37

That's Nancy Ann.

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Did we did we say that up ahead?

SPEAKER_03 15:40

Yeah.

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You completely missed that.

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Nancy Ann Tappy.

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Nancy. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 15:46

That's her name.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Fair. Gotcha. Yeah.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_04 15:49

I was like, who is poor Nancy? Poor Nancy is so forgettable. In the sentence that we are speaking about her seems like, listen, bitch, bitch. You don't impress me much. You may be Brad Pig.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

I'm not seeing her last name in here at all. Did you say it?

SPEAKER_04 16:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Yeah. Oh, I said it. That's why I forgot. I don't remember anything I say.

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Love us. I love you. I love being here. I love us.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

I love us. Anyway, continue, please.

SPEAKER_04 16:21

It's actually you. This is going great. This is going. This is why you come. This is why you come.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Hold on, I'm crying. Okay. According to Tappy. I love it. According to Nancy Ann, these indigo children are considered highly evolved and each share psychological traits that allow them to operate outside the norm, potentially psychic, sensitive, or can even remember past lives. Wild. How cool would that be? Wild. She also believes that those dubbed indigo children can easily interact with ghosts and spirits in the beyond. This is because Nancy Ann mapped the indigo color to the third eye chakra. Makes sense? Right here. The energetic center governing intuition and clairvoyance. Yes. Her system positions indigos as naturally multi-dimensional beings and can therefore see and hear things that other mere mortals cannot. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

Thank you, right? I don't know why I'm thinking you. Probably because I was like You wrote it. I wrote it, but I have nothing to do with that.

SPEAKER_05 17:35

Thank you. Nancy Ann, thanks you.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

Is she dead? Let's find out. Real quick. Nancy. We appreciate you, Tappy. Death.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Death.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Uh she died in 2012. So maybe she's here. Maybe she's in the room. Are you with us?

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Tappy?

SPEAKER_03 17:58

Um also third eye chakra. It's right here. If you're not watching, it's in the middle of your forehead.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

I just read something where if you put your one finger at the very top of your like the crown of your head and one finger um like right between your eyebrows and basically uh bring them together where they meet is basically where your third eye was.

SPEAKER_03 18:23

Amazing. That's brilliant. I love that. My little revelation that I uh gasp at is I'm wearing my chakra necklace. I didn't even mean to do this.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Meant to be. Your indigo childs made that happen.

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Wild.

SPEAKER_03 18:35

Um we'll get into more of this, but like I'm my mom believes that my brother actually was. Okay, interesting because he's so like no ghosts. He was for a long time. Like I think I've spoken about this and sorry, sorry if I shouldn't be, but like he was he was the ghost hunter of the family for a long time. Really? Yeah. Like he was straight many. If he were if he were here, he'd be like, I grew up.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Straight man syndrome. It's a thing.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

Yeah, he he probably just was like, this is kid stuff.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

I've never actually asked him.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

That was like, I'm gonna out my brother, but that literally happened with his like artwork and stuff. Yeah. He was an epic artist. I mean, he still is, but he didn't practice and wanted to become, you know, truck driver and straight man. He's like, art's not cool. I know you don't think that now, Dave. Don't worry.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

But yeah, it's yeah, no, I know it's the straight man syndrome.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

It could be, but I mean, hey, like both of our brothers, go back to your passion.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

No, no shade, but some shade against straight white men.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

That's all we do. That's all we do. That's all we do. Oh my gosh, Kyle and the car driving down. Because, anyways, as you know, like not all men are terrible, but most of Not all men are terrible. So I said something about like this woman I'm old straight white men specifically.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

Terrible.

SPEAKER_03 19:47

Terrible terrible. And he Kyle was like, I am one. You need to stop. I'm like, you are always excluded from the conversation.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Oh wait, it's although he would have hated our cottage week because the theme of the week was we hate on straight white men. And Adam and Eric were like, but they were all on board with it. We're like, they can't.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

Because they are fantastic as well. They're fantastic. Everyone in our lives, we choose, we don't associate with people who are shitty women.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

So there are very there is a specific straight white man that I'm obsessed with who is just so you know, we love them. They're in touch with their sexuality, they're cool.

SPEAKER_03 20:25

They're we like they support friends, family, they they celebrate women. Anyway. Uh let's get back to it because we're getting really actually. We're getting really off topic. We are. Um, okay, so what does Nancy and Tiapi's uh system say exactly? Well, in short, it covers the following multidimensional awareness. So indigos are described as operating on higher dimensions of consciousness. Um, unlike most adults who filter out unconventional stimuli, indigos are said to perceive spiritual energy as clearly as physical matter.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

I love jealous.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Yeah, Sam.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

I am definitely not an indigo.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

Oh man, that that does not happen to me. Be like, and here's my scroll. Like, what? I don't know why I did it like that. It's gotta be a scroll. Um, so they often report speaking openly with angels, spirits, or deceased relatives, treating these interactions as completely normal occurrences.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Love.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Because they are. They are for certain people, that is a normal occurrence. Totally. Uh rather than just physically seeing a ghost, indigo's are highly clairsentient, which is, of course, intuitive or psychic ability, where an individual perceives information, energy, or vibrations through bodily sensations and deep emotional feelings rather than the standard five senses. Right. So you like feel it, you sense it, you feel it, feel it.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

Feel it in my fingers. Feel it in my toes. I love that you do immediately.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

Okay, this is gonna be a dumb other tangent. Can't wait. When you hear that song, what do you go to?

SPEAKER_04 22:14

Love actually.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

Because it I know it's the not at all.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

It's not an actual song, but Christmas is all around. Is it an actual song? Or is it like it's he has an actual song in the movie, but it's his Christmas version of it.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

So I believe that's the first one. Like I feel it in my fingers. I think that's an actual song that they created a character to be. Gotcha. I think I might be wrong. Somebody fact check. Should I just do it really quickly? I feel it in my fingers song real question mark.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Oh, so I just love the song.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Yeah, Anton Oceanes is in sure.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Um Yeah, so it's a real song by a band. I believe called Wet Wet Wet. But I believe they wrote it, right? I believe they wrote it in Love Actually for like that guy, Bill Nice character. Yes. And then made it to like Christmases all around me. And I love how he's like, There's another syllable. I can't think another syllable. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

It's so good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

But yes, that's where my mind goes. Love.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Great question. Perfect.

SPEAKER_03 23:15

Great tangent.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Um so they can also immediately sense the distinct emotional residue or heavy energy signature left behind by a spirit in a room.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

Yeah. Picks up. I think some of those people we were with experienced that. 100%. Yeah. In the theory.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

Yeah, we had we had a few psychic psychics and mediums in the tour with us. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Um their interactions are often described as internal or telepathic conversations rather than external spooky apparitions.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

Yeah, when it's clear sentient.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Clear sentient. Many children identified as indigos frequently report vivid memories of past lives or recall conversations with deceased family members they never met in real life. Wow. That'd be creepy and cool. Within this community, this is viewed as proof that their souls view time as fluid, making it easier for them to communicate across the barrier of death.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

Yeah, that'd be that'd be really, really interesting. If like all of a sudden your kids like, hey, I remember speaking to Great Aunt Sophie about XYZ, and they'd be like, She died 10 years before you were born.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

That would be mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Or there's videos of uh kids who will say they were talking to somebody and then they point at a picture. It's like, oh, it was this person. Yes. And it's like, yeah, that that's like your granny that's been dead for however long. Shivers. Shivels.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

So, I mean, should we cover the skeptical and medical perspectives about this? At least a tiny bit. I guess. So there are some explanations that are of this world, you know, science and whatnot. Again, we do love a scientist here. We always don't want to just immediately drink the Kool-Aid. Um, but typically we love the taste of the Kool-Aid. And we do.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

So could this be We also have to speaking of science, bring me back to that topic for after you talk about it?

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Okay. Um, so let's talk about vivid imagination. You know, developmental psychologists attribute these ghost sightings to maybe the pre-operational stage of childhood where children naturally blur fantasy and reality. Maybe this is just something that they're making up, they're creating, they have an overactive imagination. It's like the idea of your imaginary friend.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Where does that come into play? However, on the flip side, you can say their imaginary friend could be a ghost, could be a spirit. Um, or, you know, intellectual sort of giftedness.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Giftedness.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Um, highly gifted children have intensely acute senses and are hyper-aware, um, which can easily be misinterpreted as a paranormal gift by like new age sort of adherents or philosophers or whatever, you know, believers, if you will. And finally, I mean, we would be remiss if we didn't talk about this. The ADHD or autism. ADHD! Right?

SPEAKER_01 26:14

Love. I mean support.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

Yeah. Listen, many traits used to define in a ghost like rejection of authority and sensory overload overlap directly with ADHD and autism. Um, skeptics note that, of course, labeling these children as psychic can sometimes mask a need for conventional psychological support. Like maybe the whole idea of like they're just they're not doing great.

SPEAKER_04 26:37

They're not well.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Yeah, fair. But who's to say? Well, I got the shit ADHD then. You can't see ghosts. No, goddammit. So, what was the thing you were gonna say? Uh, okay, this is like l so off topic.

SPEAKER_05 26:51

I can't wait.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Um, but speaking of science and scientists, did you hear that CERN shut off the hadron colli the hadron collider thing? Um, because every the I forget how many years, but they have to turn it off for like maintenance and cleaning and they're updating it and stuff. But everyone thinks that when they turned it on, they created like um like the black holes or pockets. Uh-huh. Um, and that's why for the past however many years, wor the world has been shit. And a lot of people have said that since they've shut it off, the world has felt at least slightly lighter. And people are um uh excited to see if that keeps going. And then when they do turn it back on in like I I for I want to say it was like 2030 or something like that, if we feel another shift, because every time they've turned it on after a cleaning, something horrible has happened in the world.

SPEAKER_03 27:49

Wild.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

How have I not looked at good for you, Steven, for tracking this? This is something that I think we should be speaking about for sure.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

A million percent.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

That is fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Yeah, leave that bitch off. Truly, though. Leave it off. Stop fucking with energy is a energy and like d like apparently dimensional pockets and time and space and stuff. Well, they're probably ripping apart exactly that's exactly what they're doing. They're creating literally what they're doing. What are they creating? The um is it dark matter or something like that? Like, just leave shit alone. I mean, listen. But also cool.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

I want to know. That is what I was just gonna say. Like, listen, super cool. Wanna know.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

But also, if there's a correlation of like bad shit happening, yeah, fucking, we'll find out, okay? I assure you, after this plane, after this plane, we're all gonna find out. What do we need to know now? Yeah, we're gonna figure, we're gonna know the secret. We're gonna know the secret. So, like, let's just anyway. Well, great, great contribution, Steven.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

I know that was very off topic, but are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_03 28:52

This is so on brand with what's what we are, exactly. Um, okay, so a little bit of banter here. Yes. Do you think this could just be the case of like describing any child when it comes to indigo children?

SPEAKER_01 29:05

Well, here's my thing. Okay. I think all children are receptive and open, way more open than any adults, to that kind of thing. So all children could to an extent be an indigo child.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

Yeah, they're closer to the other side because they've come out, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. Ish to an extent. To an extent, ish, ish. Um I I there are a lot of great points here. Um, certainly when it comes to like autism, ADHD. Yeah, you know, like I get that. Even the intellectual sort of um side of things, like it's just, it's just here's a quote that I found from um IFLS, which is I fucking love science.com.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Love.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

Ironically, I don't know if I should say this, but uh, I used to work for a company that owned it. Oh, fun. Okay. Um that. Okay, so this came from an article. It was on IFLS uh.com called What Are Indigo Children? Um Okay, so from that article, from that writer, um, there's a quote that says, that's another big criticism leveled at those who promote the indigo child concept. The so-called indigo characteristics are so broad and so generalizable as to apply to just about anybody. It's called the Barnum effect. After Phineas Taylor Barnum, the showman and of course, you know, person we all know, who is said to have coined the phrase, a sucker is born every minute, which might tip you off as to where we're going with this. So the article kind of talks about how, like, no, like while they says nah. Compute says nah. Um, while it's whimsical and fun and cool to think about this, like this particular writer took the more scientific group, obviously IFLS.com, um where people are just jumping on the bandwagon to make people think something. But I don't know, because like how do you how do you then counter the kids who do come forward and say, I liked my other mommy, if you know what I mean? And like have other sort of scenarios like that. Or I feel like a lot of parents have those stories of like the kid being like, there's a man in my room. And you're like, What?

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Excuse me?

SPEAKER_03 31:17

You know, like it happens a lot.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

It happens a lot.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Um so there's a story that I did pull um from online. There's not a lot here, so like could be a legend, whatever, but I just think it's interesting. Um, The Boy from Mars. So one of the most famous indigo stories that I've found um features a Russian boy. Was it always Russian?

SPEAKER_00 31:36

It's always those Russians. Oh, those Russians. But all those Russians.

SPEAKER_03 31:40

Um features a Russian boy named Boris Kipreyanovich.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

Ooh, that's hot.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

Thank you. Thank you. Um, who claimed to have lived on Mars in a past life. He amazed researchers with his detailed knowledge of Martian history, cataclysms, and advanced spacecraft.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

So, like amazed researchers of Martian history and advanced spacecraft. So, like, but so that's in history?

SPEAKER_04 32:08

We we know that research. Well, this is the thing. So, like, while I found that direct quote, yeah, we don't have a history of Martian.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

There there isn't any.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

You could literally say anything.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

And yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:22

And it we have no way of it. Shocking all!

SPEAKER_01 32:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Now, is there also like about the advanced spacecraft? Cool, fine. If that kid did experience something and there was an actual story about spacecraft, so while I essentially what I was saying is like maybe if it was about spacecraft that actually existed, then how could the kid know that?

SPEAKER_04 32:42

Yeah. Fine.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

But like the Martian history line, I'm like, It's so funny. No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

So funny. See, we're skeptical too.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Yeah.

unknown 32:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

You have to be skeptical.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

You have to be. So just a f a a last line for you here.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

Love it. So science can't get behind auras, but as we know, not everything can be explained.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

Right, and that's why we're here. So, to that point, before we end it.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

Auras.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

Auras.

SPEAKER_03 33:12

I do believe in auras.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

I do too.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

I really do. Have you ever had an aura photo?

SPEAKER_01 33:16

No, but I really want to.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

Where were we where we said we would do that? Oh, the psychic fair.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

Did you go? Was it just me? Who was I loaded?

SPEAKER_01 33:24

It might have just been you. Because I don't think we've been to a psychic fair.

SPEAKER_03 33:27

We've never been to a psychic fair together, which is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

We went to the witch market thing, but that was different. Yeah. They had a few psychics.

SPEAKER_03 33:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there is, again, I'm skeptical about this though. So like there is a photo booth sort of setup where you can like get your aura taken. Is it just generating a random color? Yeah. A hundred percent. I think that.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

But again, though, when you think about it, auras are the energy fields supposedly around your body, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:53

So energy is always around. Energy just doesn't disappear. So I that's why I think the auras exist because I think our energy gives off a specific color.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

Um, I did have someone who I randomly knew who used to run the Mystic Shop in Aurelia a million years ago. It's gone now and is so sad because it was like so great. Um she told me that my aura was gold.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Yeah. I could see that. Gold, sun, fire energy. Yeah. So, like, that's cool. I would love to go to someone else and see if they say the same color. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

I want to know what mine would be. Yeah. I would want like a, I don't know, like a bright, vibrant, green, purpley, earthy.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

Totally.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

But also like fun and vibrant. Yeah. Like a bright one. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

Um so yeah, let us know if you believe in auras, if you are an indigo child.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

So, yeah, on that note. On that note, so my friend, I'm gonna shout you out, Brad. I do love you. Um, he ha says that he's an indigo child. Now I'm sad because I I messaged him and the in Indigo episode I didn't realize it was coming up. So I didn't get a chance to have like a sit-down with him and kind of like pick his brain about what type of indigo child he is or um why he thinks that. He told me a few stories, and of course I'm not remembering them. When he was a kid, there was a lot of things he would say that his parents were like, what the fuck? And he's still a very fun, whimsical, high-energy, amazing, just genuinely sensitive, yeah, stunning person. We love brads. Um we love you birds.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

You love all the brads, by the way. You know many brads.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

We have many brads in our lives.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

I don't know how. I don't know how to I went from zero to several brads in my life. Ah, yeah. Um, but yeah, he's great. Yeah. And Brad, if you're listening and you are comfortable, feel free to like write in some stories and you can always share that.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

Um, for sure, yeah. I I same. I I knew it was coming. I wrote it and I did not make the ask. But I'm my mom has always said that like she's pretty sure my brother was. Yeah. My mom was also the one who told me, shout out Deb, um that a physical trait of indigo children is like large eyes.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

So there you go. But that's interesting. Remains to be seen in a baby, which I guess every baby has large eyes. No, not every baby has large eyes.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

I mean, a lot of babies just look like ugly aliens.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

And on that note Do you not agree though? No, I completely agree. Yeah, it's it's it's wild. It needs like five days to look a human.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Do you remember that video? There's a video of like a woman, and she's talking about like how ugly babies are. And she's like, uh I mean, some babies are cute, and she'll be like, oh, what a cute baby. But then if it's an ugly baby, she's like, oh, you did that.

SPEAKER_05 36:40

Burn.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

That's amazing. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 36:43

All right. Well, let's wrap this up. Um, so thank you so much for listening to the Weirdos of Whimsy. We will be back again soon with another episode that guides you through the weird and whimsical journey that is our brains. Be sure to follow us on Instagram and TikTok and YouTube at Weirdos of Whimsy Pod. Watch that space for updates, release dates, and other treats and delectable morsels. Say goodbyes, TV. Goodbye, everybody. And as always, big gulps, eh?

SPEAKER_02 37:12

Well, see you later.